Divorce Lawyer

[The_quiet_one]

Good point

[oldtrucker]

I shudda clarified as to what was metaphorical I guess. I'm Just Nother (my dad actually wanted to name a boy that.). Divorce lawyers forged my youth. That was a different eon tho. Getting your kids out of the country was pretty easy then.
We need to lose the idea of what marriage/cohab is. Sure, back in the day when it was a male dominated world family law may have had its place, but now the playing field is equal and i think everyone would be better served by a much simplified system as for issues regarding biochildren....50/50 on real costs that are needs, not wants. The rest of the assets as per actual contribution. Former partner support in any form is enslavement.

[W105]

if marriage or common law scares you then simply just get a pre nup...it's not hard to do...having a life partner isn't as horrific as you think Old trucker.... and you might be quite happy having one in your golden yrs..and hey if that isn't a concern then that's ok too...life is very short so do whatever really makes you happy...

[oldtrucker]

just get a pre nup.

And if in that cohab agreement/prenup there is a part that says both of you are independent when it comes to $$$ but one of you has a rough spot and the other takes up the slack without ending the relationship in good faith.... the terms of the agreement are broken and your married.

[W105]

just get a pre nup.

And if in that cohab agreement/prenup there is a part that says both of you are independent when it comes to $$$ but one of you has a rough spot and the other takes up the slack without ending the relationship in good faith.... the terms of the agreement are broken and your married.

^^ then just maybe update the agreement every few yrs ?? also if it's decided that there will be children in your relationship and it's decided that one person will stay home to raise them , then it should be considered a full time job and a yrly wage should be applied to it...too many people think that staying home and raising the children and caring for the home ( which is a large investment) isn't a job and requires very little time and that's very untrue..

[oldtrucker]

^^^ Maybe gov't should pay all costs since it's them dictating the terms of how everyones children will be brainwas....I mean raised.
Ya from a females perspective it could be and is sometimes a Cash for Life lotto ticket win- from multiple men

[normaM]

easy to answer that Q Quietone, no one, ever... has told me what to do
You had a free mind and could make your own decisions.....
Did you do everything he asked?

My Mother taught me to think for myself, always be able to support myself. Thanks Mom

[normaM]

oh, and before the boos and hissing starts I started living with my husband when I was 17, wed at 21

[W105]

oh, and before the boos and hissing starts I started living with my husband when I was 17, wed at 21

^^ met my husband when I was 15 and married him when I just turned 21 ...we sound crazy in today's world eh Norma

[dirtybiker]

Not too strange to me.
Became solid friends in '76, hooked up as couple in '98, planned the kidlet
'that finally took root in 2002.
Mutual agreement to not share the same roof, yet still maintain our lifelong deal
in 2015.
All as good as it could be for our situation.

[oneh2obabe]

easy to answer that Q Quietone, no one, ever... has told me what to do
You had a free mind and could make your own decisions.....
Did you do everything he asked?

My Mother taught me to think for myself, always be able to support myself. Thanks Mom

Dad said I came out of the womb a think for yourself independent female and like Norma, no one never ever told me what to do. They might ask if I'd do something but learned real fast never ever tell or order me to do something.

[The_quiet_one]

Not everyone has the privilege of loving parents.
Not everyone gets taught life skills. Some girls
so marry their “fathers”. It’s all they know.
I’m glad you were taught early.
It took years to learn those skills after my abussive marriage.
It took falling apart, and putting myself back together to get where
I am today. So no, Norma, I didn’t have a free mind. Yes. I did
what I was told. That’s the only reason someone will love me.
That’s what I was taught. Do what they say.

[oldtrucker]

Not everyone has the privilege of loving parents.
Not everyone gets taught life skills. Some girls
so marry their “fathers”. It’s all they know.
I’m glad you were taught early.
It took years to learn those skills after my abussive marriage.
It took falling apart, and putting myself back together to get where
I am today. So no, Norma, I didn’t have a free mind. Yes. I did
what I was told. That’s the only reason someone will love me.
That’s what I was taught. Do what they say.

It's only been 100 years since the 'to obey' was removed from the cherish , to have, to hold blurb...
Power is not using your power....
He didn't have any true self confidence did he? His came from being good at mentally mind bleeping others into submission(?)
His confidence came from beating those around him down and perceived it as himself being a alpha... but he wasn't alpha in the presence of other men....was he?
Impossible to love your mate when they are abusive....once that line has been crossed, it really can't be fixed- ever. It takes years and years to develop a relationship/trust and only a brief instant of stupidity to destroy the entire thing.

[W105]

Not everyone has the privilege of loving parents.
Not everyone gets taught life skills. Some girls
so marry their “fathers”. It’s all they know.
I’m glad you were taught early.
It took years to learn those skills after my abussive marriage.
It took falling apart, and putting myself back together to get where
I am today. So no, Norma, I didn’t have a free mind. Yes. I did
what I was told. That’s the only reason someone will love me.
That’s what I was taught. Do what they say.

It's only been 100 years since the 'to obey' was removed from the cherish , to have, to hold blurb...
Power is not using your power....
He didn't have any true self confidence did he? His came from being good at mentally mind bleeping others into submission(?)
His confidence came from beating those around him down and perceived it as himself being a alpha... but he wasn't alpha in the presence of other men....was he?
Impossible to love your mate when they are abusive....once that line has been crossed, it really can't be fixed- ever. It takes years and years to develop a relationship/trust and only a brief instant of stupidity to destroy the entire thing.

[PoplarSoul]

Not everyone has the privilege of loving parents.
Not everyone gets taught life skills. Some girls
so marry their “fathers”. It’s all they know.
I’m glad you were taught early.
It took years to learn those skills after my abussive marriage.
It took falling apart, and putting myself back together to get where
I am today. So no, Norma, I didn’t have a free mind. Yes. I did
what I was told. That’s the only reason someone will love me.
That’s what I was taught. Do what they say.

Don't beat yourself up on that one.
I'm also a highly independent woman and it had nothing to do with my upbringing.
I was born that way. From the get go. That was my character.
We are who we are.
If we choose to change our way of life for any reasons, it's on us and only on us.
Seems like you did that. Good for you.
Hope you find peace and happiness in your future.