Mandatory Training for Truckers

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Here is quite the read. Not news to anyone long standing in the Industry.
Likely, quite the shocker to those not ingrained in it though.

Corruption to the 10th level.

https://bcbusinessbroker.ca/2019/10/16/ ... 4sgaKdVYSk

Feel safe out there yet ?
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Well, that sure keeps the lawyers busy. Payday!!!
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Catsumi wrote: Jan 17th, 2022, 5:29 pm Well, that sure keeps the lawyers busy. Payday!!!

Thing is though, this is a decades old issue, I heard about this stuff
in the early '80's when I was starting out.
But one mention of it and racial accusations sure get flung like
the contents of a full diaper, spattering everything within range.
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What else did you expect?

Bringing into the fray, drivers from other countries with no experience driving big trucks, poorly equipped in English let alone the mysteries of chaining up wheels (don’t mention the footwear….flipflops), and add in the stress of payback to bug overlords that oversee repayment as the ultimate goal, it’s a wonder to me that more trucks aren’t doing the big skid and crash scenario. Truly.

We live in interesting times where those who are able to read road signs, can understand instruction in English, do not choose to work in these industries, but choose instead, to be couch spuds. (They’ve put down roots into home flooring by now). Simply, they choose not to work at all. [icon_lol2.gif]

You were aware of these problems since 1980 DB, but the rest of us weren’t, not until hideous crashes, multiple lawsuits were undertaken, but now we are.

I remember when…..it was a wise choice in clouded circumstance, to get behind a transport truck’s tail and follow him until your turnoff appeared. I thank the driver of 15 years ago that I hung onto, very tired, and wanted only to get home safe, that guided me unwittingly, to my last lap. Nowadays, a truckdriver might send me over a cliff after himself.

Next: How to make this stop?
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dirtybiker wrote: Jan 17th, 2022, 1:20 pm Here is quite the read. Not news to anyone long standing in the Industry.
Likely, quite the shocker to those not ingrained in it though.

Corruption to the 10th level.

https://bcbusinessbroker.ca/2019/10/16/ ... 4sgaKdVYSk

Feel safe out there yet ?
An interesting and somewhat terrifying read.

I live in Kamloops, so I'm on the TCH almost daily. There's hundreds of trucks every day going through town, and Gulzar Trucking is a common one.
I would suggest staying away from their trucks, but really, stay away from all of them.

I watch Highway Thru Hell and often see these young inexperienced drivers from India causing a cluster *bleep* on the Smasher.
Yeah, some don't know how chain up, some aren't allowed to, some seem to want to learn but being stuck on the Smasher isn't the place to learn.

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dirtybiker wrote: Jan 17th, 2022, 1:20 pm Here is quite the read. Not news to anyone long standing in the Industry.
Likely, quite the shocker to those not ingrained in it though.

Corruption to the 10th level.

https://bcbusinessbroker.ca/2019/10/16/ ... 4sgaKdVYSk

Feel safe out there yet ?
wow..how do i share this to Facebook?
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mullyman wrote: Jan 18th, 2022, 8:39 am

wow..how do i share this to Facebook?
Well, that is where I copy and pasted it from. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Notice how a lot of Canada's problems have something to do with the immigration system being exploited? Nah...
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oldtrucker wrote: Jan 17th, 2022, 9:44 am Over border vax issues now....
We risk our lives for you, our legal futures with liability, our long term health...( did you know we will die 12 years sooner than other non truck driving men?), and our personal/family lives. Why? Why should truck drivers be made to slave in a industry with no employee protections? mickeyD's pays 45$ less per day for the same hours(13-14) with zero chance of any of the bad stuff I listed above. Boyz...DO NOT SERVE THEM ANYMORE....It's not your problem the shelves will be empty. Never was but for some reason you are less than ANY other employee in Canada- your lives mean squat.
Now it's time to turn in the keys boyz...
DEMAND 40/hr plus overtime after 8 hours and double time after 12 hours( hmm... overtime, just like everyone else in Canada?) from your employer.....OR YOU WALK. If they even open their mouths to say "We dont have to pay by the hour or pay overtime according to the law..." Don't even let them finish the sentence. Take the keys out of your pocket, put them on the desk and walk out.


^^ just saw this ad on FB Old Trucker, is it a good offer ??


Good morning! Sysco Kelowna is hiring for:
Class 1 Delivery Drivers
Early morning hours
4x10 schedule
Airbrake certification required
Full time permanent position with benefits after 3 months
$60,000-100,000/year total compensation
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W105 wrote: Jan 28th, 2022, 2:46 pm $60,000-100,000/year total compensation
If it REALLY is 40 hours week and it is 100k then that's 50/hr....awesome deal.
edit added. If its the 60k which I'm assuming would be the start rate and the 100k is the top rate- only for the ones that have been there a number of years, it works out to $31.25 hr which is about average considering the start time of the wee hours. Your up for work at about 1230-1am to start work for 2am-3am done at 1pm ish. If it started at 7am ish or more normal hours it wouldn't pay $31.25, it would be more around the $26.00 hr mark.
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oldtrucker wrote: Jan 28th, 2022, 2:56 pm
W105 wrote: Jan 28th, 2022, 2:46 pm $60,000-100,000/year total compensation
If it REALLY is 40 hours week and it is 100k then that's 50/hr....awesome deal.
^^ it was just posted and it seems 100% legit :up:
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W105 wrote: Jan 28th, 2022, 3:15 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Jan 28th, 2022, 2:56 pm
If it REALLY is 40 hours week and it is 100k then that's 50/hr....awesome deal.
^^ it was just posted and it seems 100% legit :up:
Because it's a delivery job within the 160km radius from home base, the employer has to pay by the hour. If it went outside of the 160km radius, the employer no longer has to pay by the hour. They can pay by the mile/km, or a flat day rate , or a percentage of the total take on what the truck brings in. What the real thing is that people don't see in that ad....it doesn't say anything about pay by the hour. it says 4 days for 10 hours....History has shown me (and many others experienced in the industry) that it is going to be unlikely that the day is really 10 hours. When someone says 10, it usually means 14. That's why no hourly rate is listed :smt045
And that's why the industry needs to change to normal by the hour pay....then there can be no funny business with drivers pay.
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If it's anything like it used to be when it was HRI or SYSCO/HRI and I doubt anything has changed other than the name you don't want to work there. They will run you into the ground, putting your own orders together for your customers, load your own trailer, deliver and unload. It's all hand bombing product up and down a ramp or pallet jack. Dealing with customers that complain endlessly that the bananas are too green or too ripe, or they've been shorted on their order or whatever. In and out of back alleys and loading docks dealing with in town traffic and you don't just sign off and go home after eight or ten hours, you keep going until the route is done. The only way you'll do a hundred grand working locally for Sysco is going seven days a week.
I guess if you're looking to get your foot in the door and can't get a break anywhere else go for it, great learning experience. But with the alleged driver shortage I'd tell them you want benefits on day one, lots of companies are forgoing the 90 day wait and have been for years.
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django wrote: Jan 29th, 2022, 5:26 pm If it's anything like it used to be when it was HRI or SYSCO/HRI and I doubt anything has changed other than the name you don't want to work there. They will run you into the ground, putting your own orders together for your customers, load your own trailer, deliver and unload. It's all hand bombing product up and down a ramp or pallet jack. Dealing with customers that complain endlessly that the bananas are too green or too ripe, or they've been shorted on their order or whatever. In and out of back alleys and loading docks dealing with in town traffic and you don't just sign off and go home after eight or ten hours, you keep going until the route is done. The only way you'll do a hundred grand working locally for Sysco is going seven days a week.
I guess if you're looking to get your foot in the door and can't get a break anywhere else go for it, great learning experience. But with the alleged driver shortage I'd tell them you want benefits on day one, lots of companies are forgoing the 90 day wait and have been for years.
Okay....I was trying to come across a little more over the back hedge/softer with the points/questions I had, but direct works to.
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django wrote: Jan 29th, 2022, 5:26 pm [snip[ putting your own orders together for your customers, load your own trailer, deliver and unload. It's all hand bombing product up and down a ramp or pallet jack. Dealing with customers that complain endlessly that the bananas are too green or too ripe, or they've been shorted on their order or whatever. In and out of back alleys and loading docks dealing with in town traffic and you don't just sign off and go home after eight or ten hours, you keep going until the route is done. [snip]
I guess if you're looking to get your foot in the door and can't get a break anywhere else go for it, great learning experience.
Certainly a physical job for sure, being youthful is a benefit as well.

The listing must be for the Regional restaurant part of the gig.
I know the Coastal rounders to get out chicken wings here for Wednesdays( :D )
don't fit the 10 hour schedule.

Many jobs listed as Trucking jobs really have a false narrative.

Many listings are looking for a labourer with a license,
Being a licensed driver is nearly secondary as to actual job expectations.

Rare for there to be injuries associated with the actual driving.
One of the highest work injury related professions there is.

Hmmmm ?
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