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fluffy wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 9:11 am Extractive Populism and the Future of Canada

"It is worth reminding ourselves how bitterly the fossil fuel industry and Alberta resisted the National Energy Program in the 1980s, a very mild form of nationalization that was promoted at the time as delivering “Canadian oil for Canadians.” While the oil and gas sectors fiercely opposed this “real” nationalization as a threat to corporate profit and private sector–led development, they gradually realized that symbolic forms of nationalization were extremely useful in legitimating the tar sands for publics outside of Alberta.

Consequently, over the last two decades Canadians have been subject to a flood of advertising and public relations, think-tank reports, speeches from politicians and corporate executives, sympathetic news coverage and, most recently, social media campaigns that consistently portray the oil and gas sector as if it had been nationalized, was a public enterprise designed
to serve the common good, and that its primary purpose was the provision of jobs and tax revenue and energy security for all Canadians."


https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites ... %20WEB.pdf

(Scroll down to page 13 for the article quoted)

Don't for a second think that with the amount of money at stake in Alberta's oil & gas industry that there aren't measures being taken to manipulate public opinion, to paint the industry as a champion of the working man. Kenney's amateurish attempts to aid in these efforts are notthing compared to the sophistication of the real program.
they half to start somewhere and the premier is a good start considering he is big buddies with american right who bath themselves in oil
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Workers Won't Benefit from Oil Boom as Executives Prioritize Dividends, Existing Projects: Analyst

“Rather than investing in new oil extraction projects, companies are paying out more profits to shareholders and trying to squeeze more oil out of their existing projects."

https://www.readthemaple.com/workers-wo ... dividends/

You're not going to get an accurate picture of how Albertans are doing by measuring how well the employers are doing.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 9:11 am

Don't for a second think that with the amount of money at stake in Alberta's oil & gas industry that there aren't measures being taken to manipulate public opinion,
I am not going to think that, given you've just provided an excellent example of an attempt to manipulate public opinion, and in an extremely dishonest way. The National Energy Program was terrible for Alberta and for Canada. Revising history now just reeks of desperation, to sell a terrible narrative.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 6:12 am Workers Won't Benefit from Oil Boom as Executives Prioritize Dividends, Existing Projects: Analyst
LOL - this is 100% total nonsense. Of course, the source is the CCPA, what else is new. What this bozo who is probably in Toronto is going against everything that everyone else is saying in the oil and gas industry right now. There definitely is going to be a prioritization of existing projects, but so what - to say that this is so evil scheme to screw over workers is just so beyond insane it's not even worth discussing. What I can't believe is that anyone puts any stock in the manipulative lying garbage the CCPA pumps out. There is no commitment to truth, only to pushing a terrible agenda of lies and total nonsense.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 6:12 am Workers Won't Benefit from Oil Boom as Executives Prioritize Dividends, Existing Projects: Analyst

“Rather than investing in new oil extraction projects, companies are paying out more profits to shareholders and trying to squeeze more oil out of their existing projects."

https://www.readthemaple.com/workers-wo ... dividends/

You're not going to get an accurate picture of how Albertans are doing by measuring how well the employers are doing.
This is 100% totally accurate.
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Pappywinkle wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:17 amThis is 100% totally accurate.
I worked in the Alberta oilsands from 2013 through to June of 2021, I watched it happen. The oil price crash in 2014/15 changed the entire landscape there. New projects that were still on the drawing board and some that had even seen a start in construction were shelved. Projects like Suncor's Fort Hills were deemed too far along to stop were completed but still struggle to some degree as construction was budgeted on a oil price of $80/barrel or higher. The focus since then has been on increased efficiency through automation. The loss of new construction projects and lower requirements for operational staff have hugely reduced the number of workers needed. Steady downward pressure on wages has also been a factor, union operators are being replaced with non-union operators at lower wages and less benefits. Sure, the producers are showing a rosy bottom line and the dividends are flowing, but there aren't as many jobs as there were a few years ago, and those that are left are paying less.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 10:31 am Sure, the producers are showing a rosy bottom line and the dividends are flowing,
What's actually happening, not like the CCPA would know or care or bother to get out of their union-funded ivory tower to find out, is that bank debt is being paid down, after years of these companies just barely staying afloat. To focus on only on hyperbolic silliness with statements like "the dividends are flowing" is dishonest and disingenuous, two specialties of the union-funded liars at the CCPA.
but there aren't as many jobs as there were a few years ago, and those that are left are paying less.
And as anyone with a brain who has been watching the oil and gas industry has been saying, the industry is still in stabilization mode right now. Next phase is growth. To just suddenly start babbling about how "jobs aren't coming back" like the prevaricating fools at the CCPA are doing is just so wrong, selling a diseased and horribly flawed agenda. Just so awful.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 10:31 am I worked in the Alberta oilsands from 2013 through to June of 2021, I watched it happen. The oil price crash in 2014/15 changed the entire landscape there. New projects that were still on the drawing board and some that had even seen a start in construction were shelved. Projects like Suncor's Fort Hills were deemed too far along to stop were completed but still struggle to some degree as construction was budgeted on a oil price of $80/barrel or higher. The focus since then has been on increased efficiency through automation. The loss of new construction projects and lower requirements for operational staff have hugely reduced the number of workers needed. Steady downward pressure on wages has also been a factor, union operators are being replaced with non-union operators at lower wages and less benefits. Sure, the producers are showing a rosy bottom line and the dividends are flowing, but there aren't as many jobs as there were a few years ago, and those that are left are paying less.
Sadly there are many far too hyper-partisan to ever say anything negative about the oilsands industry.
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Pappywinkle wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 11:06 amSadly there are many far too hyper-partisan to ever say anything negative about the oilsands industry.
They don't argue from a place of knowledge, they just argue.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 3:10 pm

They don't argue from a place of knowledge, they just argue.
When it comes to the CCPA, they definitely don't argue from a place of knowledge, they argue from a place of total dishonesty and deceit. It's all about pushing their horrible and disgusting agenda on their unionized mush-heads who stupidly continue to fund their completely insane and flawed "studies". Any "analysis" done by them should be immediately laughed at, as that is the only true value of the volumes of garbage that they produce.

If they had any integrity whatsoever, there might be some value to their contrarian reporting and baseless conclusions, but they have none. Zero. It's just pure lies, and more lies.
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Jason Kenney comes out of the closet for the truckers.

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Again Jason Kenney comes to the rescue.

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kenney must be on the phone to trump on a daily basis. Sad that we have a premier with his head inserted into his rear.
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Jason kenney was on rosemary live today and said
Kenney telling Rosemary about donors being unable to make donations due to frozen accounts says it all for me. His base is literally frozen!
now correct me if i am wrong , but did mr kenney just admit his base has frozen accts from supporting the insurrection ?
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