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BC Landlord wrote: Apr 1st, 2022, 6:29 pm What made Zelenskiy militarily butt heads with Russia is beyond comprehension. There is only one outcome whom this, and it’s not pretty for Ukrainian people. They did not deserve this.
If your next door neighbor started putting bulldozers and backhoes on your property line and started telling you not to join the neighborhood watch or he would bulldoze your property and dig holes in it, you gonna sit down with him and tell him ok I won't join neighborhood watch and will give up my seat on the library board just to please you?
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I Think wrote: Apr 1st, 2022, 6:37 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Apr 1st, 2022, 6:29 pm What made Zelenskiy militarily butt heads with Russia is beyond comprehension. There is only one outcome whom this, and it’s not pretty for Ukrainian people. They did not deserve this.
If your next door neighbor started putting bulldozers and backhoes on your property line and started telling you not to join the neighborhood watch or he would bulldoze your property and dig holes in it, you gonna sit down with him and tell him ok I won't join neighborhood watch and will give up my seat on the library board just to please you?
That’s a very lame analogy. For more than 8 years the new Ukraine government has been poking Russia in the eye relentlessly. Zelenskiy should have seen it coming.
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gertlush wrote: Apr 1st, 2022, 2:33 pm
Queen K wrote: Apr 1st, 2022, 12:29 am Crimea, the land Russia stole from Ukraine. Got it. :up:

And one of the most graphic descriptions of the war so far, BBC really did it this time. Graphic, gory and gripping all in one story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791
Read a history book, Crimea has alwsys bern Russian
Until it wasn't. So Petulant Putin invaded in 2014 and took it over for Russia.
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I need to know why it was ok for the US to put military bases in every country they supposedly saved - but Russia annexing a region that was under their influence for hundreds of years is criminal? And on top of that, it was fine for the US to annex Guantanimo out of hand for - reasons. We are in a time in which the hypocrisy of the western powers is now being practiced by their adversaries. Who do not fear the west like they used to. Need proof? Putin is using every excuse and play that the west has used in geopolitical and economic interests. Using the same justifications and reasons to the letter. And now that Putin is doing so - it's suddenly war crimes and too odious for the western powers to stomach. I do not support what Russia is doing at all. I just see that pandora's box has been opened by the west - and now suddenly the world wants the genie put back in the bottle because it's Russia. The hypocrisy is insane. If Russia is able to carve up Ukraine - the west won't be able to do anything about it. Because as the west has shown in abundance - history is written by the victors.
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Putin sent them all to their deaths. What a disgraceful man. They should have been doing good works in Russia, not out to kill more people. Surely some of you will agree?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60946340
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Russian helicopter cut in two with British missle defense.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ukrai ... 04-02-2022
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Queen K wrote: Apr 2nd, 2022, 9:57 am Russian helicopter cut in two with British missle defense.
I've read up on that Star-Streak system. Nasty bit of kit. Keep the laser pointed on the target, target gets hit. Period.
https://www.bing.com/search?pc=CBHS&pta ... tar+streak

Stingers and others use infra red or radar seekers but those hot flairs you see spraying out can deflect the stingers to some extent.

You rock Ukraine, keep up the great work in wacking those invaders. :130: :up:
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seewood wrote: Apr 2nd, 2022, 10:07 am You rock Ukraine, keep up the great work in wacking those invaders. :130: :up:
I concur

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Erm....

Not a tactician alas there might be a reason they're pulling out of certain areas!
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MCB wrote: Apr 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pm Not a tactician alas there might be a reason they're pulling out of certain areas!
They are loosing a war of attrition. Time to bail, move to the eastern flank and hopefully will continue to loose.

I remember reading quite some time ago an attacking force could be as much as 3 times the defensive force unless you have force multipliers. Those force multipliers might be air assets, cruise missiles and armor. Might have to write an addendum in the war games books... Bet China is making notes as Taiwan has some pretty modern kit and the backing of US.
Looks like the Ukrainians are doing a damb fine job, regardless of any military doctrine. It is a war crime that the Russians are laying waste to cities and towns that have absolutely no military value. AND NO, Ukraine are not positioning artillery or heavy equipment in said towns, hospitals, apartment blocks etc.
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Amazing what fear and paranoia can do.
Like NATO would have ever invaded Russia.
Crazy.
Try to "develop" Russia now with all the sanctions.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has sought to justify his attack by arguing that Ukraine, a former Soviet state with Nato and EU ambitions, was a constant threat and Russia could not feel "safe, develop and exist".

In Bucha, where a photographer for Reuters news agency also recorded dead bodies, holes gaped from apartment blocks hit by shelling and crushed cars littered the streets.
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All I see with nato is bunch of chicken :swear: cowards, not willing to confront a bully.
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Just looked it up in the news ... Ruble is currently a hot item on the market. It’s going up almost like Bitcoin. The best investment you can make nowadays. So much for sanctions ...
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BC Landlord wrote: Apr 2nd, 2022, 4:13 pm Just looked it up in the news ... Ruble is currently a hot item on the market. It’s going up almost like Bitcoin. The best investment you can make nowadays. So much for sanctions ...
Knock yourself out... you and TT would make good roommates over in Moscow.
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