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A look at some of the deadliest mass killings in Canada since the 1970s

https://globalnews.ca/news/6840650/mass ... gs-canada/
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 12:27 pm A look at some of the deadliest mass killings in Canada since the 1970s

https://globalnews.ca/news/6840650/mass ... gs-canada/
Better ban all vans. Especially those capable of killing the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time.

April 23, 2018: Alek Minassian drives a white van along a crowded Toronto sidewalk, killing 10 people and seriously injuring 16 others.

Minassian later admits in court to carrying out the attack in retribution for years of sexual rejection and ridicule by women. He’s awaiting trial on 10 counts of first-degree murder and 16 of attempted murder.

The judge has said the case will turn on Minassian’s state of mind at the time of the attack, not whether he did it.
Better ban gasoline.
Sept. 1, 1972: An arson attack on a downtown Montreal night club kills 37 people and injures 64. Gasoline was spread on the stairway of the Blue Bird Cafe and then ignited.
Better ban bombs. Oh wait, they're already banned. Better ban unions then, they killed these people.
Sept. 18, 1992: A bomb kills nine strike-breaking workers at the Giant Yellowknife gold mine in the Northwest Territories.
Better ban knives. Especially sharp ones.
April 15, 2014: In Calgary’s worst mass killing, five young people were attacked and stabbed at a house party. Matthew de Grood was declared not criminally responsible (NCR) for the killings. It was determined de Grood was mentally ill at the time of the fatal stabbings and unable to understand his actions were morally wrong.
Better ban smuggled, illegal firearms that Wortman used. Trudeau just reduced sentences for smuggling guns into Canada, but I'm sure he has good reasons to let murderers and gun smugglers off the hook - maybe they all vote for him.
April 19, 2020: 17 people are dead, including the gunman, after a man who at one point wore a police uniform and drove a mock-up cruiser travelled across northern Nova Scotia.
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 12:27 pm A look at some of the deadliest mass killings in Canada since the 1970s

https://globalnews.ca/news/6840650/mass ... gs-canada/
Not one type of firearm in the recent ban was acquired/ sourced in canada or used in the Nova Scotia shooting.
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Mark5 wrote: May 11th, 2022, 7:19 pm What has me worried about this new law is the fact that this information of names, addresses and firearms will likely fall into the wrong hands. If businesses are to keep records of sales with all these details, how do we know the information is secure?

If it is kept in a ledger or on a computer database at the store, who has access to it? Will this information be protected? Will those people involved be checked out and vetted? What if they have ties to organized crime? What if the computer gets hacked? Even the RCMP admitted their firearms database for the registry was hacked into over 400 times. Suddenly there is a shopping list available for break and enters or home invasions by the criminal element.


The Liberals and their anti-gun cohorts keep saying that legal guns are stolen and used in crimes. How is this helping that? Anonymity give protection and security. We would not want lists of valuables such as jewelry and cash that people keep at home published anywhere.

Yet another foolhardy attempt to appease those who hate guns and want revenge for mass killings. It is said that "Revenge is like a virus waiting to be unleashed. When you seek her…the outcome is never what you hoped for. Even though the taste of revenge may be sweet for a second or two, the everlasting effects are purely bitter.

No matter our place in life, revenge is trying to be a part of it. Everyday someone does something to us and let’s be honest, our natural tendency is to repay evil with evil. It is apart of who we are."

So this vengeful act towards legal gun owners will not lead to anything good. Very sad.

Your concerns are valid, Mark5.

I am not a gun owner but if I was, I too would be extremely concerned about hackers gaining entry into the registry, finding out where you live, how many guns are stored there, the gun particulars and anything else that may make YOU/family a target for break-and-enter, possibly with personal assault or death trying to defend your home and gun safe.

Don’t you just wish that those who make the laws had some consideration of those who will be affected the most?

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Gone_Fishin wrote: May 12th, 2022, 12:38 pm
foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 12:27 pm A look at some of the deadliest mass killings in Canada since the 1970s

https://globalnews.ca/news/6840650/mass ... gs-canada/
Better ban all vans. Especially those capable of killing the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time.

April 23, 2018: Alek Minassian drives a white van along a crowded Toronto sidewalk, killing 10 people and seriously injuring 16 others.

Minassian later admits in court to carrying out the attack in retribution for years of sexual rejection and ridicule by women. He’s awaiting trial on 10 counts of first-degree murder and 16 of attempted murder.

The judge has said the case will turn on Minassian’s state of mind at the time of the attack, not whether he did it.
Better ban gasoline.
Sept. 1, 1972: An arson attack on a downtown Montreal night club kills 37 people and injures 64. Gasoline was spread on the stairway of the Blue Bird Cafe and then ignited.
Better ban bombs. Oh wait, they're already banned. Better ban unions then, they killed these people.
Sept. 18, 1992: A bomb kills nine strike-breaking workers at the Giant Yellowknife gold mine in the Northwest Territories.
Better ban knives. Especially sharp ones.
April 15, 2014: In Calgary’s worst mass killing, five young people were attacked and stabbed at a house party. Matthew de Grood was declared not criminally responsible (NCR) for the killings. It was determined de Grood was mentally ill at the time of the fatal stabbings and unable to understand his actions were morally wrong.
Better ban smuggled, illegal firearms that Wortman used. Trudeau just reduced sentences for smuggling guns into Canada, but I'm sure he has good reasons to let murderers and gun smugglers off the hook - maybe they all vote for him.
April 19, 2020: 17 people are dead, including the gunman, after a man who at one point wore a police uniform and drove a mock-up cruiser travelled across northern Nova Scotia.
Ok if we're going to do that, let's get back to that circular argument....... :digging:

Cohen: Most Canadian gun deaths are suicides. We need tighter controls
To-date, the primary perspective on gun violence has been crime-focused. But we should be thinking about it primarily as a public health issue – and setting policy accordingly.
https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/colum ... r-controls
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:16 pm
Gone_Fishin wrote: May 12th, 2022, 12:38 pm

Better ban all vans. Especially those capable of killing the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time.




Better ban gasoline.



Better ban bombs. Oh wait, they're already banned. Better ban unions then, they killed these people.



Better ban knives. Especially sharp ones.



Better ban smuggled, illegal firearms that Wortman used. Trudeau just reduced sentences for smuggling guns into Canada, but I'm sure he has good reasons to let murderers and gun smugglers off the hook - maybe they all vote for him.

Ok if we're going to do that, let's get back to that circular argument....... :digging:

Cohen: Most Canadian gun deaths are suicides. We need tighter controls
To-date, the primary perspective on gun violence has been crime-focused. But we should be thinking about it primarily as a public health issue – and setting policy accordingly.
https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/colum ... r-controls
Fill in the blanks please

Most Canadian suicides are _______________

Firearm suicides are how far down the list _____________
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mikest2 wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:20 pm
foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:16 pm

Ok if we're going to do that, let's get back to that circular argument....... :digging:

Cohen: Most Canadian gun deaths are suicides. We need tighter controls



https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/colum ... r-controls
Fill in the blanks please

Most Canadian suicides are _______________

Firearm suicides are how far down the list _____________
Please fill in the blank.

Most gun deaths in Canada is by ____________.
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:25 pm
mikest2 wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:20 pm

Fill in the blanks please

Most Canadian suicides are _______________

Firearm suicides are how far down the list _____________
Please fill in the blank.

Most gun deaths in Canada is by ____________.
Gun Control is spelled "Gun Control"
Suicide is spelled "Suicide"
You appear to be in the wrong forum
Suicide is a different subject, people will use the most convenient tool to complete any job.
Taking guns away does nothing, we need support for the individual.
Liberal logic at work
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mikest2 wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:30 pm
foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:25 pm

Please fill in the blank.

Most gun deaths in Canada is by ____________.
Gun Control is spelled "Gun Control"
Suicide is spelled "Suicide"
You appear to be in the wrong forum
Suicide is a different subject, people will use the most convenient tool to complete any job.
Taking guns away does nothing, we need support for the individual.
Liberal logic at work
Oh you didn't read the article then? Suicide by guns is the leading cause of gun violence in Canada. The article talks about suicides as a public health issue and GUN CONTROL as a Canadian policy. Read it....might learn something.
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^^^ were did these suicides obtain the firearm used, I suspect the black market just like those who commit mass shootings.

So thank you for reinforcing my issue with gun control, if the black market isn’t completely shutdown then gun control is useless.
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GordonH wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:53 pm ^^^ were did these suicides obtain the firearm used, I suspect the black market just like those who commit mass shootings.

So thank you for reinforcing my issue with gun control, if the black market isn’t completely shutdown then gun control is useless.
Nope not blackmarket.....sorry to dissapoint. I think mostly by rifles if memory serves but I could be wrong about that.
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:01 pm
GordonH wrote: May 12th, 2022, 8:53 pm ^^^ were did these suicides obtain the firearm used, I suspect the black market just like those who commit mass shootings.

So thank you for reinforcing my issue with gun control, if the black market isn’t completely shutdown then gun control is useless.
Nope not blackmarket.....sorry to dissapoint. I think mostly by rifles if memory serves but I could be wrong about that.
Maybe check on method and get back to me with the link.

So what about numbers for
Slit wrists
Pills
Jumping
Etc... etc

I remember suicide by Semi was popular method.
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GordonH wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:12 pm
foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:01 pm

Nope not blackmarket.....sorry to dissapoint. I think mostly by rifles if memory serves but I could be wrong about that.
Maybe check on method and get back to me with the link.

So what about numbers for
Slit wrists
Pills
Jumping
Etc... etc
I already laid my card, it's up to you to disprove it......get back to me with the link.

This is a thread on guns.....not pills, jumping, slit wrist or etc etc.
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:15 pm
GordonH wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:12 pm
Maybe check on method and get back to me with the link.

So what about numbers for
Slit wrists
Pills
Jumping
Etc... etc
I already laid my card, it's up to you to disprove it......get back to me with the link.

This is a thread on guns.....not pills, jumping, slit wrist or etc etc.
No link from you means you have nothing.
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GordonH wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:24 pm
foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 9:15 pm

I already laid my card, it's up to you to disprove it......get back to me with the link.

This is a thread on guns.....not pills, jumping, slit wrist or etc etc.
No link from you means you have nothing.
No link from you means you can't disprove what I wrote and have nothing.

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