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LovemyBolt wrote: May 25th, 2022, 2:10 pm
Urban Cowboy wrote: May 25th, 2022, 2:01 pm
Do you think that might be due to the percentage of the market driving ICE vs EV? :biggrin:
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I'm also aware, that from more than one story I've come across, there's the suggestion that Tesla for example goes to great lengths to downplay issues such as fires pertaining to their cars. This to me at least implies that statistics may well not be all that accurate.
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Urban Cowboy wrote: May 25th, 2022, 2:15 pm
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I'm also aware, that from more than one story I've come across, there's the suggestion that Tesla for example goes to great lengths to downplay issues such as fires pertaining to their cars. This to me at least implies that statistics may well not be all that accurate.
I'm certainly not defending Tesla but don't all corporations spin information. But the news and social media and insurance would have a thing or two to say to corporations when caught manipulating information.
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first f150 ev lightning being delivered

https://www.thedrive.com/news/first-202 ... -delivered
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captkirkcanada wrote: May 27th, 2022, 10:11 am first f150 ev lightning being delivered

https://www.thedrive.com/news/first-202 ... -delivered
I have curious question:
Is the plastic components on EV’s still made from oil.
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GordonH wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:55 pm
captkirkcanada wrote: May 27th, 2022, 10:11 am first f150 ev lightning being delivered

https://www.thedrive.com/news/first-202 ... -delivered
I have curious question:
Is the plastic components on EV’s still made from oil.
It's. About. The. Burning.
Oil by-products will be with us for a long time. If we don't burn them then maybe that would be nicer for the planet. Not that that's my prime directive. Extraction and processing have their own matters. But then to just burn it and throw the waste of combustion out into the air is where the problem is. But at the end of the day I just don't like buying gas every time I turn around. Very few people would be hard-core, all-out, zero-impact.
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LovemyBolt wrote: May 27th, 2022, 7:46 pm
GordonH wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:55 pm

I have curious question:
Is the plastic components on EV’s still made from oil.
It's. About. The. Burning.
Oil by-products will be with us for a long time. If we don't burn them then maybe that would be nicer for the planet. Not that that's my prime directive. Extraction and processing have their own matters. But then to just burn it and throw the waste of combustion out into the air is where the problem is. But at the end of the day I just don't like buying gas every time I turn around. Very few people would be hard-core, all-out, zero-impact.
So once gasoline is no longer used, what do refineries do with it after they remove the plastics (along with polyester etc... etc) from the oil. They will have growing millions of litres of gasoline just sitting around in a expanding number of storage tanks.
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GordonH wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:55 pm
captkirkcanada wrote: May 27th, 2022, 10:11 am first f150 ev lightning being delivered

https://www.thedrive.com/news/first-202 ... -delivered
I have curious question:
Is the plastic components on EV’s still made from oil.
i have better question, is the batteries in your phone made from lithium? :smt045 do you need temps below 50c to live? do you need plants to survive? is there another earth to move to within next 50 years?
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https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/hemp-car ... he-future/

Hemp-based bioplastic is stronger than steel. It can be used to make car bodies that are less prone to dents and bumps.
Hemp-based bioplastic is lighter than glass fibre and steel. Less weight results in better propulsion and less fuel consumption.
Hemp allows for a more environmentally friendly production process. The car industry could thus improve its disastrous CO2 balance. Worldwide, this industry is responsible for 9% of CO2 emissions. Its ecological footprint is larger than that of the entire EU.
Hemp oil as a fuel offers many advantages. Hemp oil burns CO2 neutrally and produces less soot and gases, and no harmful aromatic compounds or benzenes. However, biofuels bring their own problems.
Hemp can be grown almost anywhere without pesticides, and used to make bio-plastics. Most hemp-based bioplastics are biodegradable.
i wouldn't be surprised to see ev cars made from hemp. hemp plastic you could eat, try that with oil based plastics [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif]
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captkirkcanada wrote: May 27th, 2022, 8:46 pm https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/hemp-car ... he-future/

Hemp-based bioplastic is stronger than steel. It can be used to make car bodies that are less prone to dents and bumps.
Hemp-based bioplastic is lighter than glass fibre and steel. Less weight results in better propulsion and less fuel consumption.
Hemp allows for a more environmentally friendly production process. The car industry could thus improve its disastrous CO2 balance. Worldwide, this industry is responsible for 9% of CO2 emissions. Its ecological footprint is larger than that of the entire EU.
Hemp oil as a fuel offers many advantages. Hemp oil burns CO2 neutrally and produces less soot and gases, and no harmful aromatic compounds or benzenes. However, biofuels bring their own problems.
Hemp can be grown almost anywhere without pesticides, and used to make bio-plastics. Most hemp-based bioplastics are biodegradable.
i wouldn't be surprised to see ev cars made from hemp. hemp plastic you could eat, try that with oil based plastics [icon_lol2.gif] [icon_lol2.gif]
The amount of hemp needed would probably remove hundreds of thousands of hectares of gains/human food production from the system. Maybe if very large amount of humans were removed from the planet it could then be doable, I suspect ww3 would do the trick.
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Driving to Kelowna yesterday afternoon while in a bumper to bumper crawl down from Gorman's mill and down through the lights in Westbank. I did notice more cars with the plug in port on the front fender. Most were hybrids when I was close enough to read the sticker.
Same when crawling down bumper to bumper down the hill onto the bridge. A number of cars I noticed had plug in ports.
( big city traffic with old city road capacity)

The shift is starting I suppose and if gas prices remain where they are, governments will be happy with the tax revenue I and more with financial means might seriously start to look at electric or hybrid, if they are prepared to wait after ordering.
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Certainly shifts are always occurring. You will see more EVs on the road today than ever, even though the number is still small.

A number of times I keep a mental count in my head of the number of EVs I see on my way to work and back. If one was to have a passenger with a little clicky counter in each hand, one for EVs, and one for the rest, the counts would still be heavily weighed against EVs.

From the bridge to the airport, not just cars in the road but also in parking lots, every vehicle within visual range, if they could all be counted, you’d be looking at like 10,000 vehicles with maybe 10 or 20 of them being BEVs. That could slightly change every time. I always wondered what the outcome would be. Of course the clicky counter for non-BEVs would be tallying so quick your fingers would be sore.
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In the US they are planning to put black boxes in new cars. This will be able to link to the digital systems of modern cars and track where you go, your private conversations, if you were speeding etc. They also want to track how many miles you drive so you can be taxed per mile. Since future cars will be interconnected and also communicating with manufacturer's servers through cell towers, it will be easy to log all the vehicle's data. I wonder how long it will take for Canada to adopt that here also.
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bonnie_henry72 wrote: Jun 5th, 2022, 10:42 am In the US they are planning to put black boxes in new cars. This will be able to link to the digital systems of modern cars and track where you go, your private conversations, if you were speeding etc. They also want to track how many miles you drive so you can be taxed per mile. Since future cars will be interconnected and also communicating with manufacturer's servers through cell towers, it will be easy to log all the vehicle's data. I wonder how long it will take for Canada to adopt that here also.
Canada would most likely follow suit. But you can defeat the cell connection. Ok fine black box accessible via the OBD connector but not live streaming data to servers. You would have to make do with less connectivity built-in to the car of course.
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Who cares about cars streaming data ? If you got nothing to hide etc etc . Could be good for tracking criminals and creeps like that . Im all for it .
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