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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 1:37 pm Oh well better than nothing like what's gonna happen down South.
Nothing better than making decisions utilizing one's opinions based on emotions. A fixation on the narrative, not reality. An extreme false dichotomy.
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https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-offic ... -daughter/

Heroic officer rushed into Uvalde school with barber’s shotgun to save daughter, wife and other children
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Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 2:34 pm
foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 1:37 pm Oh well better than nothing like what's gonna happen down South.
Nothing better than making decisions utilizing one's opinions based on emotions. A fixation on the narrative, not reality. An extreme false dichotomy.
Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
I haven't read a single article stating the kids were unidentifiable which leads me to believe they asked for DNA samples so the parents or teachers didn't need to look at the bodies to identify them. Much quicker and more accurate than trying to ID from photos. Where did you read this?!

Does it matter if the guns are used for hunting or sport? There seems to be some level of OKness if the gun is used for shooting animals over targets.

If the USA had a huge outbreak of COVID in Texas, would you expect our PM to lockdown Canada?
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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm
Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
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225 victims were killed ( so far ) in Chicago in 2022.

https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

Ya it is the guns not the culture, upbringing, family, work, school etc.
Looking at their guns laws there right now.What a messed up part of the world and getting worse.
This is not a good example of rights.
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Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:47 pm
foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
I haven't read a single article stating the kids were unidentifiable which leads me to believe they asked for DNA samples so the parents or teachers didn't need to look at the bodies to identify them. Much quicker and more accurate than trying to ID from photos. Where did you read this?!

Does it matter if the guns are used for hunting or sport? There seems to be some level of OKness if the gun is used for shooting animals over targets.

If the USA had a huge outbreak of COVID in Texas, would you expect our PM to lockdown Canada?
Really? 2 second Google search found tons of the articles like this......

Frantic parents wait for hours to be reunited with kids as DNA tests used to confirm victims
Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX) told "CBS Mornings" on Wednesday that many of the children could not be identified, and they needed DNA to identify them and their families. 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-scho ... t-reunite/

It was the same story in Florida with parents being asked for DNA sample because the kids were too torn up from the results of being shot by an AR15.
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oldtrucker wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:12 pm
alanjh595 wrote: May 26th, 2022, 3:46 pm

Where do you get those numbers from? OR are they just made up, like the last time?
If you don't believe my numbers then look em up.
you made the claim, now back it it up with evidence.
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So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
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Mark5 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:11 pm So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:05 pm
Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:47 pm Really? 2 second Google search found tons of the articles like this......

Frantic parents wait for hours to be reunited with kids as DNA tests used to confirm victims



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-scho ... t-reunite/

It was the same story in Florida with parents being asked for DNA sample because the kids were too torn up from the results of being shot by an AR15.
Yeah, really. I've honestly never met someone so intent in raising false information.

All the article states is the children could not be identified by the officers. TO BE CONFIRMED BY OFFICERS WOULD REQUIRE PHOTOS. That would take much more than 1 hour to identify.

but yeah, keep up the narrative that each kid had so much ammunition put thru them they turned to nothing. Oh and keep telling yourself it was due to the firearm, not bullet size and grain.

The amount of misinformation and absolute uneducated opinion on the topic speaks volumes.
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mikest2 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:20 pm
Mark5 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:11 pm So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
The left will not support mental health initiatives because it thins out their voter base
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Vast majority of these statistics are criminals using guns, criminals don’t register their gun and they get their gun from the Black Market.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/37 ... Can-report

Almost every evening news there is at least 1 gang shooting in GVRD, same thing GTA.
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foenix wrote: May 12th, 2022, 10:12 am I feel for you trucker....don't blame the Liberals, blame the few bad apples that wreck things for the majority of the responsible owners. That happens all the time, not just guns.
Don't defend the Liberals. They had a gun registry years ago, it was a waste of money and did nothing to slow up gun crimes.

As people have stated here, the hunter and sport shooters are not the Criminals.

Make the Criminals accountable for their actions. Make Government accountable for their actions as well as they are not being held to account.

Do as the USA does with their 1%. If you are a Criminal in the USA and you are caught with a firearm you go to jail. If you use a firearm will committing a offence, add on five more years to the sentence minimum. Stop this double time for those on remand, defense counsel uses it to make their clients sentence reduced.

Stop the problem which is the Criminals.

No registry will stop guns and criminals mixing. Fact of the matter the firearms used in crimes are not registered, they are black market weapons which are brought in from the USA. As long as the USA has guns, Criminals in Canada will have guns.

Lastly the stupidest thing I've ever hear about guns was Trudeau. "No one needs a assault weapon as they are not need for hunting." In the very next breath, " I'll let Indiginous peoples can keep their assault weapons as they have the inherent right to hunt."

That was the stupidest thing I've ever heard out of Trudeau and truly when his lips move it flows freely, he is not very intelligent!
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^^^ great post. :up:
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