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Kodidad wrote: May 31st, 2022, 6:42 pm
Sparki55 wrote: May 31st, 2022, 5:49 pm

That's like telling people we need to ban cars because people can drive over others. Somehow owning a gun is less important than a car.

Somehow a car serves a greater purpose that a firearm. Yet there is no definition defining this.
What is the purpose of a gun? Not to wound, maim, cause flesh wounds, bash somebody over the head. No it's to KILL. Either human or animal. A car takes you places, like work, vacation, visit friends and family, pick up groceries.

Here's a definition for you. A car is a means of transportation. A gun is a means of death.
Wow...I think I just read that almost word for word in a book about the holocaust. The propaganda they were selling in 1937-39 before the bleep hit the fan
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HANDGUN ‘’FREEZE’’ STRONGLY CRITICIZED IN GREATER MONTREAL
Police officers also criticize the bill.
Since yesterday, several police sources have deplored the repressive aspect of the bill towards law-abiding gun owners.
''Thefts of firearms from home represents a very small percentage of organihazed crime's supply of firearms. The number of times we have seized a registered gun in Canada in a gang-related shooting can be counted on one hand," said one detective sergeant with the Montreal Police Service, speaking on condition of anonymity.
"Ninety-five percent of the use of handguns in violent crimes is from the black market, the contraband market that is supplied by criminal organizations located in the United States." Said another Detective Sergeant.
For his part, André Gélinas, a former detective sergeant who trained police officers in shootings and use of force, maintains that banning handguns will not suddenly solve the problem of gun violence in Montreal.
‘’Banning and removing registered handguns from the hands of their law-abiding owners won't solve anything. This is a dogmatic idea from lobby groups. It is not the legal guns that are the problem, it is the (dirty) guns that are acquired illegally. And I see that this bill does nothing to address this issue. It's all smoke and mirrors," says the former police officer.
The roots of the gun violence problem.
On the community side, Pierson Vaval, Executive Director of Équipe Rivière-des-Prairies, sees only cosmetic changes in the bill.
‘’Young people we deal with don't have are not licensed gun owners. If they have the money and the contacts, they'll just get what they want on the street," says Vaval, who is involved with youth in Montreal's northeast.
According to him, justice is not the key to solving the problem of gun violence on the streets of Montreal.
‘’The roots of the gun violence problem lie in the attraction of youth to firearms and the culture of violence. By investing our efforts in prevention, we will get much more concrete results. We can spend a lot of money on police resources, but if this attraction of young people to weapons is not addressed, the law and justice system will not work," he concludes’’

And to add to this,Biden's open southern borders are bringing in all kinds of illegal activity,drugs,human trafficking,gangs and guns and if you think Canada is immune to this then I'm afraid I can't help you.Proven time and time again,banning anything be it alcohol,tobacco,drugs,guns only forces it to go underground and proliferate.
May I suggest,to those people who think the current Government has only your best interests at heart,get on the WEF website and see what they have planned for the Western world.If you can't see the future from that then once again,I can't help you.
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foenix wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 9:05 am ....and you need an AR15 and it's ilk for that? Like there aren't other legal firearms to play with?
Yes, I DO. Since its the same fire rate, chamber size and style as other rifles it compares to that are legal why even argue that this rifle is somehow more dangerous or not needed?

What you just stated is like telling a sports car enthusiast they can buy a Civic, that they don't need to play with a Porsche.

Foenix, you don't understand firearms, their size, impact or how they are used. You have no appreciation for target shooting or collectors. Why do you feel that, since you have no interest in the sport, it's your place to even suggest other firearms are available to play with and just as good?
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Lawrence: How Does A Texas Police Chief Go AWOL?

The entitlement of evangelical conservatives in America is astonishing. And then this city swears in an incompetent police chief as a city council member in secret. Conservatives are worse than Liberals in every way.

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Sparki55 wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:09 pm
foenix wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 9:05 am ....and you need an AR15 and it's ilk for that? Like there aren't other legal firearms to play with?
Yes, I DO. Since its the same fire rate, chamber size and style as other rifles it compares to that are legal why even argue that this rifle is somehow more dangerous or not needed?

What you just stated is like telling a sports car enthusiast they can buy a Civic, that they don't need to play with a Porsche.

Foenix, you don't understand firearms, their size, impact or how they are used. You have no appreciation for target shooting or collectors. Why do you feel that, since you have no interest in the sport, it's your place to even suggest other firearms are available to play with and just as good?
There you go, you've answered my question. So no difference then and the comparison would be that there are other "Porsche" out there that are compatible you can substitute it with. Pretty simple no?

Why would you even assume I haven't? I already said I grew in the States, became a sharpshooter as an NRA member. Besides, it's not the car that's important, it's the driver or in this case the target shooter. If your obsessed about how a firearms looks on a target range, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.....I'm sure when you figure that out, it won't matter what you're shooting with as long as it's dead center.
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Catri wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:25 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:01 pm ^^^ okay.
Fine let's be direct...and don't blame me cuz I didn't invent the evolutionary system. It's just the way it is. It's the natural order of things.
Men don't respect effeminate anything unless it legitimately has the parts to shop at the Gap.
No one is going to blame you for the “evolutionary system”, but we will blame you for your failure to evolve. It’s not cool to use gender as an implication of weakness any more than it’s okay to use skin colour as an indicator of intelligence. I completely reject your assertion that it is “just the way it is.” Just because you cling to outdated ideas about women, that does not make it the norm, society has moved on without you.
Okay. Go start a thread and social concerns and present the situation and prove me wrong.
I think you should re read my post...did I present a outdated idea about women?
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Feonix...since you are into the sport we should tag up and go shooting some time. You can teach me some things maybe.
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oldtrucker wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:34 pm Feonix...since you are into the sport we should tag up and go shooting some time. You can teach me some things maybe.
You should re read my post. I wrote I was into target shooting growing up in the States. I've gone on to other sports that doesn't require blasting things.
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foenix wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:47 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Jun 1st, 2022, 12:34 pm Feonix...since you are into the sport we should tag up and go shooting some time. You can teach me some things maybe.
You should re read my post. I wrote I was into target shooting growing up in the States. I've gone on to other sports that doesn't require blasting things.
I'll never try asking you out again. My fragile male ego has been shattered in public.
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