Marco Mendicino should resign

Should Marco resign for repeatedly lying to you?

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Marco Mendicino should resign

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Canadians must hold liars like Mendocino to account.

Enough with these Liberal Lies. Resign NOW!


Rex Murphy: For the sake of his integrity, Marco Mendicino should resign


I have today a grim and possibly, in the current moment, arcane subject: the doctrine of ministerial responsibility in the parliamentary system. It is possible, I suppose, to have chosen another topic even more leaden and esoteric, one guaranteed to drive readers away and usher them to the much superior enlightenments of Lord Black. Such as, for example, the CBC’s concept of comedy.

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Bluntly stated, Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands. The Brits were caught totally off guard. They had not so much as a whisper of anticipation of the event. Their fabled MI6 had been dumb on the point. And the foreign office in particular was caught, most spectacularly, with its pants down and the whole world gaping at its ineptitude.

It was a great diplomatic failure. The foreign secretary at the time was Lord Peter Carrington.

Do you, dear Reader, know what he did? Within three days, this minister stood in that House of Commons and … resigned.

Here was his reasoning. He took full responsibility for the failure of his department to foresee the invasion and, being minister of that department, saw that failure as his. He, personally, was not at fault. His department had messed up. And that was, on a point of honour and tradition sufficient reason, as he saw it, for his resignation. A man of conscience and dignity, obeying the doctrine of ministerial responsibility.

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Truckers convoy. Emergencies Act. Marco Mendicino.

Mendicino, the minister of public safety, testified many times that the police forces had requested him to bring in the Emergencies Act.

They did not.

By their own testimony.

Civil liberties and the Charter were nullified, the rights of citizens to protest suffocated, financial and personal privacy invaded, and the police (and possible spy) forces of the country were given unseen powers by the invocation of that act.

And the minister who put the act into motion, who halted the operations of Canadian democracy, has been proven — by his own words and those of his deputy — to have given a false account of why the government of Canada did what it did.

And rather than explain matters himself, he has hidden behind the skirts of his underling.

The dignified and immensely more honourable Lord Carrington did not pluck someone from further down the chain to take the heat and bear the blame. Lord Carrington had honour. He effectively said: “I am the minister. If my department fails, it is because I have failed.”

This is what is, or was, called “ministerial responsibility.” Where, oh where has it gone?

In the Canadian case, it is the minister himself who has failed, who misrepresented the reason we had this deplorable overreach of the Emergencies Act, and instead of standing up to take the blame, he has tried to pass it all off as a slip of his too ambiguous tongue.

Ministerial responsibility is a dream in the Trudeau government. Or nightmare — pick your terms.

Mr. Mendicino should, for the sake of his own integrity, resign.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-mu ... uld-resign
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Bang on.

No integrity, no taking responsibility. "Prepare the sacrificial underling..."
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It’s 100% probable that Mendicino took his orders from someone higher up in the ladder, and that someone should also resign.

If he had any integrity at all.
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Good point, Catsumi.
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Once I thought I was wrong.....but I was mistaken...
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mikest2 wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 11:16 am Verbatim

https://twitter.com/ST_Phelan/status/15 ... 06/photo/1
So: "My understanding that it was a misunderstanding of the minsters words, one that went on for months and months and months, and no one thought it would be a good idea to correct that misunderstanding until just now, sort of, ummm... yeah."

You really couldn't expect to make this stuff up on the fly and have rational folk accept it as the truth.

Some people will believe it anyway!
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Rusty, you are capable of sorting out wheat from chaff, and when you do, tell us here what all the bafflegab meant, willya?
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Marco is blathering out porkers on the firearms file as well.

He's a bald-faced liar. Repeatedly.
New gun legislation 'doesn't target law-abiding gun owners,' safety minister says

Critics of the bill, and specifically the handgun freeze, say it unfairly targets highly-vetted, legal firearm owners instead of criminals who obtain guns illegally.

Mendicino refuted this assertion.

“Bill C-21 doesn't target law-abiding gun owners, it targets handgun violence, it targets organized crime,” he said.
“I have enormous respect for law-abiding gun owners and have engaged with them and I've visited some of my opposition colleagues' ridings to talk with them. But the fact of the matter remains that Statistics Canada reports that gun violence is on the rise, handgun violence specifically is on the rise.”

The federal government had previously committed to work province-by-province on handgun bans, which gun-control advocates argued would only create a patchwork system of differing approaches.

We know that this claim, which apparently the entire Liberal party has adopted, is complete and utter nonsense. This bill absolutely targets law-abiding gun owners. Not only does it target them, it targets them exclusively! Saying something which is false repetitively doesn't make it true, but we know this is a tactic that the Liberals employ to convince ignorant voters of falsehoods.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 7:17 pm Marco is blathering out porkers on the firearms file as well.

He's a bald-faced liar. Repeatedly.
New gun legislation 'doesn't target law-abiding gun owners,' safety minister says

Critics of the bill, and specifically the handgun freeze, say it unfairly targets highly-vetted, legal firearm owners instead of criminals who obtain guns illegally.

Mendicino refuted this assertion.

“Bill C-21 doesn't target law-abiding gun owners, it targets handgun violence, it targets organized crime,” he said.
“I have enormous respect for law-abiding gun owners and have engaged with them and I've visited some of my opposition colleagues' ridings to talk with them. But the fact of the matter remains that Statistics Canada reports that gun violence is on the rise, handgun violence specifically is on the rise.”

The federal government had previously committed to work province-by-province on handgun bans, which gun-control advocates argued would only create a patchwork system of differing approaches.

We know that this claim, which apparently the entire Liberal party has adopted, is complete and utter nonsense. This bill absolutely targets law-abiding gun owners. Not only does it target them, it targets them exclusively! Saying something which is false repetitively doesn't make it true, but we know this is a tactic that the Liberals employ to convince ignorant voters of falsehoods.
I realize it's hard to believe, but he makes Bill Blair look almost intelligent.
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mikest2 wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 7:39 pm
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 7:17 pm Marco is blathering out porkers on the firearms file as well.

He's a bald-faced liar. Repeatedly.

I realize it's hard to believe, but he makes Bill Blair look almost intelligent.
And Bill appeared to be slobbery drunk most of the time!
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Not an inkling of a Liberal lapdog on here to defend Marco.
Could they be seeing the light as well?
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bb49 wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 8:09 pm Not an inkling of a Liberal lapdog on here to defend Marco.
Could they be seeing the light as well?
Like newts. Only see daylight when it smacks them upside.
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bb49 wrote: Jun 10th, 2022, 8:09 pm Not an inkling of a Liberal lapdog on here to defend Marco.
Could they be seeing the light as well?
If they tried to defend him, they'd just have to lie as well.

Isn't it an interesting tactic that when a Liberal lies, they try to make you the bad person that failed to understand the liar?
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What is the carbon footprint from Marco's pants being on fire all the time?
Dear Mr McAdam,

On May 19th Marco Mendicino, the Minister of Public Safety, confirmed that he stood by his statement in Parliament on May 2nd that “on the recommendation of law enforcement we invoked the Emergency Act”.

We now know that the police did not make this recommendation.

RCMP didn't ask for Emergencies Act to be invoked, commissioner tells Commons committee
National Post, May 10, 2022
Ottawa interim police chief Steve Bell didn’t ask feds to invoke Emergencies Act
Global News, May 17, 2022
Former Ottawa police chief Peter Sloly says he didn't ask Liberals for Emergencies Act
National Post, Jun 02, 2022


The Liberals are now backpedaling, with the Deputy Minister of Public Safety saying that their minister was just “misunderstood”.

There is no room for being misunderstood when setting historical precedents.

The Liberals must disclose their Cabinet documents, waive Cabinet Confidentiality and allow Justice Rouleau full access to the Liberals’ decision-making behind invoking the Emergencies Act, an inexcusable overreach into every Canadian’s rights and freedoms.
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Each and everyone one of them involved in any way with this should all be lead away from their desks and locked up. Everyone of those lying, disgraceful pieces of crap that sit with JT should be jailed for this.
And here is the worse part in the whole thing, look back at just who here on these forums were part of the campaign, that bought into the crap for political emotional satisfaction. Media manipulation sure does work.
So, we cannot trust a word form this government, we cannot trust a word from the major media. What's left except just assume everything from them is a lie.
Hopefully, some form of accountability will follow, but lets not hold our breath.

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