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Are you suggesting these people cant figure stuff out ? That seems like selling them shorthozzle wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 10:19 amWell they might realize the cons later down the road.captkirkcanada wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 9:18 am 6 nations is going renewable in canada where its supposedly impossible to use solar lol .
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I don't think he's dumb or anything like that and I'm sure he knows his way around charts and graphs. He's also not a climate scientist and is unqualified in making scientific determinations. That's why he doesn't link climate science research papers, he links blogs. Playing an expert on the internet does not make it so.
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Real men do not need to idle their cars in minus weather . I call them men that do wimps .
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"can't figure stuff out?"captkirkcanada wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 11:29 amAre you suggesting these people cant figure stuff out ? That seems like selling them short
Those are your words, and don't really lend to any meaningful conversation... I'm sure they are more than capable of setting up a solar plant... it's the repercussions that they may have either ignored or overlooked that may become more prevalent to the rest at a later time.
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That's not a very smart ideacaptkirkcanada wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 1:20 pm Wooden towers for wind power units coming
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IMO, one of the most impressive accomplishments of climate change alarmism has been to convince millions of people they shouldn't believe what they can easily see with their own eyes unless they are told by a person with a particular designation what to believe about what they see with their own eyes.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 1:16 pmI don't think he's dumb or anything like that and I'm sure he knows his way around charts and graphs. He's also not a climate scientist and is unqualified in making scientific determinations. That's why he doesn't link climate science research papers, he links blogs. Playing an expert on the internet does not make it so.
The consequence is millions of people who believe ordinary people are not qualified to understand when profiteers are quite clearly manipulating us - and prefer instead to allow the manipulation to continue regardless of the negative consequences for us and the environment.
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I think it's an impressive accomplishment that people think their internet research means their opinion holds as much weight as someone who's spent years getting an education, doing working research on a topic then having that research published and peer reviewed. Or that people think the people who research the issue are the same people who make the policies on how to deal with and treat it like it's the same thing. Oh wait, I think that's dumb. There are no high fallutin climate scientists.rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:21 pmIMO, one of the most impressive accomplishments of climate change alarmism has been to convince millions of people they shouldn't believe what they can easily see with their own eyes unless they are told by a person with a particular designation what to believe about what they see with their own eyes.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 1:16 pm
I don't think he's dumb or anything like that and I'm sure he knows his way around charts and graphs. He's also not a climate scientist and is unqualified in making scientific determinations. That's why he doesn't link climate science research papers, he links blogs. Playing an expert on the internet does not make it so.
The consequence is millions of people who believe ordinary people are not qualified to understand when profiteers are quite clearly manipulating us - and prefer instead to allow the manipulation to continue regardless of the negative consequences for us and the environment.
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Every word of this post demonstrates the ignorance that unfortunately infects far too many people in this world, which unfortunately is leading to insanely stupid policy like shutting down Dutch farming and mass investments in wind farms that produce almost no electricity. It's this gullibility and willingness to believe in fairy tales that is causing mass harm right now.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:26 pm
I think it's an impressive accomplishment that people think their internet research means their opinion holds as much weight as someone who's spent years getting an education, doing working research on a topic then having that research published and peer reviewed. Or that people think the people who research the issue are the same people who make the policies on how to deal with and treat it like it's the same thing. Oh wait, I think that's dumb. There are no high fallutin climate scientists.
There's a Canadian public company that is drilling for oil in Namibia right now. If they hit on their target, they will enrich the lives of millions of people in that country, with jobs and oil revenue. People who right now are wallowing in poverty, and have wallowed in poverty for centuries. And you know who is trying to stop this company from drilling? NGO's and environmentalist whackjobs, all of whom live in first world countries and who don't have to worry about their five year old daughter being eaten by crocodiles or lions while she walks 5 km every day to get water for her village. And why are these idiots trying to block this project? Well because of the man-made climate change myth of course.
So millions of people are potentially going to be denied a first world living standard because of elitist scumbags living in the lap of luxury making six figure salaries. Where is the sanity in all of this? Why is this stupid myth being allowed to harm so many people in this world? Why can't we worry about clothing and feeding the world's population (something that we could do if we all worked together to accomplish it) rather than continue to block food and oil production that could directly benefit human beings who need it most??
For shame, all you horrible enviros pushing this stupid man-made climate change agenda, and causing so much harm to your fellow man. All because you think "scientists" are telling you the world is going to end. It's not going to end. But it could be a whole lot brighter if we all focused on actual problems instead of made up ones.
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Which was why some of us have given more consideration to the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:26 pmI think it's an impressive accomplishment that people think their internet research means their opinion holds as much weight as someone who's spent years getting an education, doing working research on a topic then having that research published and peer reviewed.rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:21 pm
IMO, one of the most impressive accomplishments of climate change alarmism has been to convince millions of people they shouldn't believe what they can easily see with their own eyes unless they are told by a person with a particular designation what to believe about what they see with their own eyes.
The consequence is millions of people who believe ordinary people are not qualified to understand when profiteers are quite clearly manipulating us - and prefer instead to allow the manipulation to continue regardless of the negative consequences for us and the environment.
Whereas others are quite content to rely on information shared via the website of a former cartoonist and web developer who received a PhD degree in cognitive science in 2016, and others of similar qualifications, and folk (apparently including some scientists!) who claim science is "consensus-driven" along with politicians who continue to expect us to disbelieve what we see with our own eyes.
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And you are ignoring the consensus of a planet full of climate scientists, from both private and public backgrounds, and sticking with this guy for what reason? It's not because he is saying what you already believe is it? Nah, couldn't be that. You like credentials huh? Here's some credentialed scientists for you: https://www.ipcc.ch/rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:48 pmWhich was why some of us have given more consideration to the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:26 pm
I think it's an impressive accomplishment that people think their internet research means their opinion holds as much weight as someone who's spent years getting an education, doing working research on a topic then having that research published and peer reviewed.
Whereas others are quite content to rely on information shared via the website of a former cartoonist and web developer who received a PhD degree in cognitive science in 2016, and others of similar qualifications, and folk (apparently including some scientists!) who claim science is "consensus-driven" along with politicians who continue to expect us to disbelieve what we see with our own eyes.
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I don't like having someone who doesn't know me claiming I don't like credentials. Stooping to making it personal suggests there's no legitimate stance to take. The snarky sarcasm suggests the same.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:54 pmAnd you are ignoring the consensus of a planet full of climate scientists, from both private and public backgrounds, and sticking with this guy for what reason? It's not because he is saying what you already believe is it? Nah, couldn't be that. You like credentials huh? Here's some credentialed scientists for you: https://www.ipcc.ch/rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:48 pm
Which was why some of us have given more consideration to the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works.
Whereas others are quite content to rely on information shared via the website of a former cartoonist and web developer who received a PhD degree in cognitive science in 2016, and others of similar qualifications, and folk (apparently including some scientists!) who claim science is "consensus-driven" along with politicians who continue to expect us to disbelieve what we see with our own eyes.

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And you'll ignore everyone else because it's not about the credentials. It's about having a biased opinion supported by someone with a degree. If it wasn't that you would concur with the IPCC and NASA findings. There is only ONE reason not to and I just outlined it. If there's another I'm unaware of please outline that for me. Do you have an understanding of how the IPCC and NASA operates?rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:59 pmI don't like having someone who doesn't know me claim I don't like credentials. Stooping to making it personal suggests there's no legitimate stance to take.JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:54 pm
And you are ignoring the consensus of a planet full of climate scientists, from both private and public backgrounds, and sticking with this guy for what reason? It's not because he is saying what you already believe is it? Nah, couldn't be that. You like credentials huh? Here's some credentialed scientists for you: https://www.ipcc.ch/
As I said, some of us will take the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works, over ANYone, including scientists, who claims that science is "consensus-driven".
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Telling us what rustled will do, again? Doesn't seem to me to be on topic!JLives wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 3:03 pmAnd you'll ignore everyone else because it's not about the credentials.rustled wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 2:59 pm
I don't like having someone who doesn't know me claim I don't like credentials. Stooping to making it personal suggests there's no legitimate stance to take.
As I said, some of us will take the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works, over ANYone, including scientists, who claims that science is "consensus-driven".
Projection, perhaps? Those of us who take the findings of an American climatologist who spent a decade as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and has been a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee, who has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works, over ANYone, including scientists, who claims that science is "consensus-driven", are not relying on anyone's opinion whether that person has a degree or not.JLives wrote:It's about having a biased opinion supported by someone with a degree.
Making it personal, again.JLives wrote: If it wasn't that you would concur with the IPCC and NASA findings.
This isn't about your understanding, or mine. It's not about how the IPCC and NASA operates, and who understands how they operate and who doesn't. It's about climate change. Insisting I must talk about what you want to talk about is pointless hubris - I reject your demands as arbitrary and biased.JLives wrote:There is only ONE reason not to and I just outlined it. If there's another I'm unaware of please outline that for me. Do you have an understanding of how the IPCC and NASA operates?

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Why not?hozzle wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 1:49 pmThat's not a very smart ideacaptkirkcanada wrote: ↑Jul 11th, 2022, 1:20 pm Wooden towers for wind power units coming
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Nope. Because this doesn't exist. There is no "consensus", and this "planet full of climate scientists" you keep referencing don't all agree on the man-made climate change myth. And then of course, there's the whole thing about how none of the predictions that this fake supposed planet full of scientists have made have ever come true. Not ever. It's all been a giant pile of blarney.
Why are we making poor people suffer over fairy tales? It's disgusting.
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