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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 11:57 am And it can only get worse, unless a reasonable peace is negotiated.
War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Chanting slogans won't help Ukrainians. Their government changing course on relationship with Russia will.
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 12:48 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Chanting slogans won't help Ukrainians. Their government changing course on relationship with Russia will.
Defending war criminal Vladimir Putin won't help Ukrainians.
The despot changing course and returning home will.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.

Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.

You're spreading propaganda
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Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.

Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.

You're spreading propaganda
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Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Removing, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.
Good one.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 2:00 pm
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Removing, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.
Good one.
Right ?!? Lmao 😂
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I was told Russia is running out missiles back in March, May, August, last week and using washing machines for spare parts. So the morning strikes could not been them.

Has anyone entertained the idea Ukraine is striking their own cities to create a false flag cause or to paint Russia in a bad light?
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The_quiet_one wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:58 pm
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm

Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.

Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.

You're spreading propaganda
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 2:00 pm
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Removing, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.
Good one.
A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.

That's called a terrorist.

The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal.
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Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.

Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.

You're spreading propaganda
I've asked before and I'll ask you again. Where are you getting this ?

I don't understand. How this account of what Putin apparently said, works...

Yes, of course this "military operation", certainly not war, because war involves.... OK,,, add that to the list how is this not a war ??

Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
So,,,, Russia has invaded Ukraine and what,,, "they (Ukraine) can decide their own future". OK they want to be left alone by Russia. How does that work ?

What is Russia going to do, go door to door looking for "the element" of the country that wants to kill Russians ?

Ah, cuz right now "the element" that wants to kill Russians is all Ukrainians. It's funny how that works, you invade a country, kill and torcher lots of innocent civilians, blow up hospitals, schools and residential housing, and surprise surprise, they don't like you,, funny how that happens.
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.

That's called a terrorist.

The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal
So, Ukrainians have been conducting terrorist attacks in Russia ?

Well if the US threatened Khadr, a Canadian citizen, while he was in custody in Gitmo, that would certainly be a good reason for Russia to invade Ukraine. Huh ???

I would really like to know where you're getting this stuff....
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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 2:55 pm
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.

Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.

You're spreading propaganda
I've asked before and I'll ask you again. Where are you getting this ?

I don't understand. How this account of what Putin apparently said, works...

Yes, of course this "military operation", certainly not war, because war involves.... OK,,, add that to the list how is this not a war ??

Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
So,,,, Russia has invaded Ukraine and what,,, "they (Ukraine) can decide their own future". OK they want to be left alone by Russia. How does that work ?

What is Russia going to do, go door to door looking for "the element" of the country that wants to kill Russians ?

Ah, cuz right now "the element" that wants to kill Russians is all Ukrainians. It's funny how that works, you invade a country, kill and torcher lots of innocent civilians, blow up hospitals, schools and residential housing, and surprise surprise, they don't like you,, funny how that happens.
Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.

That's called a terrorist.

The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal
So, Ukrainians have been conducting terrorist attacks in Russia ?

Well if the US threatened Khadr, a Canadian citizen, while he was in custody in Gitmo, that would certainly be a good reason for Russia to invade Ukraine. Huh ???

I would really like to know where you're getting this stuff....
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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 2:55 pm Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
Such simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 3:15 pm
my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 2:55 pm Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
Such simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
Russia couldn’t leave Ukraine alone to choose Europe over them. Ukraine gets their freedom from Russia in the early 1990s after 300+ years of occupation.
Between Tsars and then the communist party murdering countless millions of Ukrainians in that time, some people just don’t understand the hatred Ukraine has for Russia.
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GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 3:26 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 3:15 pm
Such simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
Russia couldn’t leave Ukraine alone to choose Europe over them.
As I said, it's not that simple. Russia already agreed to let them alone after the dissolution of the USSR, providing Ukraine wouldn't turn hostile, i.e. joining NATO. They agreed, and everything was nice, peaceful, and prosperous. Then, the Maidan coup came in 2014. This is when the new, openly Nazi and Russia-hating government took over. Not only that they aspired to join NATO shortly after, by also started terrorizing their own Russian-speaking population, and effectively engaged in ethnic cleansing on the state level. This is what led to what we are seeing today.
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