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War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.BC Landlord wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 11:57 am And it can only get worse, unless a reasonable peace is negotiated.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
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Chanting slogans won't help Ukrainians. Their government changing course on relationship with Russia will.PoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
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Defending war criminal Vladimir Putin won't help Ukrainians.BC Landlord wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 12:48 pmChanting slogans won't help Ukrainians. Their government changing course on relationship with Russia will.PoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
The despot changing course and returning home will.
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Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.PoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
You're spreading propaganda
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Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pmTotally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.PoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 12:01 pm War criminal Vladimir Putin doesn't want peace.
He wants land. Illegally obtained.
Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
You're spreading propaganda



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Removing, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Good one.
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Right ?!? LmaoPoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 2:00 pmRemoving, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Good one.
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I was told Russia is running out missiles back in March, May, August, last week and using washing machines for spare parts. So the morning strikes could not been them.
Has anyone entertained the idea Ukraine is striking their own cities to create a false flag cause or to paint Russia in a bad light?
Has anyone entertained the idea Ukraine is striking their own cities to create a false flag cause or to paint Russia in a bad light?
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Feel free to post evidence to the contrary.The_quiet_one wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:58 pmMazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm
Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.
Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
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A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.PoplarSoul wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 2:00 pmRemoving, killing, raping, torturing innocent Ukrainian civilians who want to kill Russians.Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
Good one.
That's called a terrorist.
The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal.
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I've asked before and I'll ask you again. Where are you getting this ?Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.
Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
You're spreading propaganda
I don't understand. How this account of what Putin apparently said, works...
Yes, of course this "military operation", certainly not war, because war involves.... OK,,, add that to the list how is this not a war ??
Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
So,,,, Russia has invaded Ukraine and what,,, "they (Ukraine) can decide their own future". OK they want to be left alone by Russia. How does that work ?
What is Russia going to do, go door to door looking for "the element" of the country that wants to kill Russians ?
Ah, cuz right now "the element" that wants to kill Russians is all Ukrainians. It's funny how that works, you invade a country, kill and torcher lots of innocent civilians, blow up hospitals, schools and residential housing, and surprise surprise, they don't like you,, funny how that happens.
So, Ukrainians have been conducting terrorist attacks in Russia ?Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.
That's called a terrorist.
The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal
Well if the US threatened Khadr, a Canadian citizen, while he was in custody in Gitmo, that would certainly be a good reason for Russia to invade Ukraine. Huh ???
I would really like to know where you're getting this stuff....
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Well saidmy5cents wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 2:55 pmI've asked before and I'll ask you again. Where are you getting this ?Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm Totally false. Russia has said for the entire military operation they want Ukraine to determine their own future the only future that they can't determine is that of being hostile towards Russia.
Every speech Putin is gave about Ukraine in the last 8 months he is always said Ukraine can decide their own future he's just looking to remove the elements of the country that want to kill Russians.
You're spreading propaganda
I don't understand. How this account of what Putin apparently said, works...
Yes, of course this "military operation", certainly not war, because war involves.... OK,,, add that to the list how is this not a war ??
Do you agree Russia invaded Ukraine ? (ie, Ukraine didn't invade Russia)
So,,,, Russia has invaded Ukraine and what,,, "they (Ukraine) can decide their own future". OK they want to be left alone by Russia. How does that work ?
What is Russia going to do, go door to door looking for "the element" of the country that wants to kill Russians ?
Ah, cuz right now "the element" that wants to kill Russians is all Ukrainians. It's funny how that works, you invade a country, kill and torcher lots of innocent civilians, blow up hospitals, schools and residential housing, and surprise surprise, they don't like you,, funny how that happens.
So, Ukrainians have been conducting terrorist attacks in Russia ?Mazdatruck wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 1:53 pm A civilian that wants to kill Russians isn't innocent.
That's called a terrorist.
The US removes, kills, tortures and rapes terrorists. Omar Kharder was threatened with sexual molestation when he was 16 at Gitmo in Cuba. Male rape in US prisons is as common as assaults. Its a package deal
Well if the US threatened Khadr, a Canadian citizen, while he was in custody in Gitmo, that would certainly be a good reason for Russia to invade Ukraine. Huh ???
I would really like to know where you're getting this stuff....
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Such simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
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Russia couldn’t leave Ukraine alone to choose Europe over them. Ukraine gets their freedom from Russia in the early 1990s after 300+ years of occupation.BC Landlord wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 3:15 pmSuch simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
Between Tsars and then the communist party murdering countless millions of Ukrainians in that time, some people just don’t understand the hatred Ukraine has for Russia.
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As I said, it's not that simple. Russia already agreed to let them alone after the dissolution of the USSR, providing Ukraine wouldn't turn hostile, i.e. joining NATO. They agreed, and everything was nice, peaceful, and prosperous. Then, the Maidan coup came in 2014. This is when the new, openly Nazi and Russia-hating government took over. Not only that they aspired to join NATO shortly after, by also started terrorizing their own Russian-speaking population, and effectively engaged in ethnic cleansing on the state level. This is what led to what we are seeing today.GordonH wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 3:26 pmRussia couldn’t leave Ukraine alone to choose Europe over them.BC Landlord wrote: ↑Oct 10th, 2022, 3:15 pm
Such simplifications won't do anyone any justice. It's way more complicated than that. Ukrainian government has a lot of blood on its hands in this.
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