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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:21 pm
my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:15 pm
OK, I'll play your little game, who did the Soviet Union invade in 1962
I’m talking about the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. Why would nowadays Russia accept something on its borders, so hostile to its security, what the US wouldn’t back then?
It already has with Norway, Estonia and Latvia.
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GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:37 pm Cuba has never been a NATO country, Russia was invited by Fidel Castro.
Wow, you need to brush up on your history.
I’ve never said Cuba was a NATO member. What happened back then was exactly the same as Ukraine nowadays inviting NATO on its borders with Russia.
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GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:39 pm It already has with Norway, Estonia and Latvia.
None of which as hostile as Ukraine, and perhaps within Russian tolerance range. I can’t speak for them. And why would that make a precedent justifying further NATO encroachments?
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Joe Rogan & Dave Smith Break Down The Real Reasons Russia Invaded Ukraine In Viral Clip

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GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:37 pm Cuba has never been a NATO country, Russia was invited by Fidel Castro.
Wow, you need to brush up on your history.
Why did the US try (and fail) to invade Cuba?
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:21 pm Why would nowadays Russia accept something on its borders, so hostile to its security
Will Finland be invaded next?
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GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:39 pm It already has with Norway, Estonia and Latvia.
The invasion of Ukraine shows that Russia does not accept the threat on their borders.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm Will Finland be invaded next?
The PM of Finland just called for regime-change in Russia and expressed the desire to place hostile weapons on the Russian border.

I'd call that hostile towards Russia.
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Mazdatruck wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:09 pm
GordonH wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:37 pm Cuba has never been a NATO country, Russia was invited by Fidel Castro.
Wow, you need to brush up on your history.
Why did the US try (and fail) to invade Cuba?
Could we focus this thread on Ukraine Russia War NEWS?
If you want to start a thread on the Cuban missile crisis, (sixty years ago guys!), not news. I'm sure that's possible.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:27 pm Could we focus this thread on Ukraine Russia War NEWS?
If you want to start a thread on the Cuban missile crisis, (sixty years ago guys!), not news. I'm sure that's possible.
The US invaded Cuba because they did not accept the threat of Russia becoming friends with Cuba.

This is the same threat NATO poses to Russia by allowing NATO into Ukraine.

Was the US wrong to invade Cuba?

Was Russia wrong to defend itself after the failed (illegal) US invasion, by placing nukes in Cuba?
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 4:53 pm Did Soviets invade a NATO member in 1962? And what was the US response?
??? DID SOVIETS INVADE A NATO MEMBER IN 1962 ? NO

AND WHAT WAS THE US RESPONSE ? None, no NATO member was invaded.

The Cuban missle crissis was about NUCLEAR MISSILES being put in Cuba by the Soviet Union.

Did someone put MUCLEAR MISSILES in Ukraine ? NO
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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:37 pm The Cuban missle crissis was about NUCLEAR MISSILES being put in Cuba by the Soviet Union.

Did someone put MUCLEAR MISSILES in Ukraine ? NO
Check your history books there friendo.

The US illegally tried to invade Cuba before there was nukes there. The Bay of Pigs.

The US did this because Cuba tried to be a "independent country" (just like Ukraine!).

Cuba, in response, placed nuclear weapons there to repel another illegal US invasion.

That's why JFK backed off. He started it.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 5:21 pm Why would nowadays Russia accept something on its borders, so hostile to its security
Will Finland be invaded next?
I doubt it. Finns already learned their lesson for flirting with Nazis in WW2. That's how they lost Murmansk region to Russia (then USSR) in 1940.
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BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:48 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:11 pm Will Finland be invaded next?
I doubt it. Finns already learned their lesson for flirting with Nazis in WW2. That's how they lost Murmansk region to Russia (then USSR) in 1940.
Why can Finland join NATO, but Ukraine can't?
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my5cents wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 6:37 pm
BC Landlord wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 4:53 pm Did Soviets invade a NATO member in 1962? And what was the US response?
??? DID SOVIETS INVADE A NATO MEMBER IN 1962 ? NO
That was exactly my point. Soviets back then did NOT invade a NATO member to provoke such a reaction from the US. They just wanted to turn Cuba into a Warsaw Pact member, a stone-throw from the American soil. Exactly what Ukraine is aspiring nowadays.
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