Bkr. Is heart disease increasing around the World?

[Silverstarqueen]

And it’s just been exasperated by the clot shot. Pharma is smiling…they got everyone taking the clot shot….now they will sell you the drugs needed to treat the damage from the clot shot. Drug dealers love customers for life

The Anti-vaxxers are exasperated by the vaccine. No one else.

[Glacier]

[Silverstarqueen]

He said the rabies vaccine is 100% effective against rabies. .... But It actually requires a regular booster for those at risk of exposure. Several other vaccines require repeat boosters to prevent breakthru infections. Yes, you can get tetanus after the vaccine, so he's wrong on that too. Kids and adults can also get pertussis, after vaccination for it. I would not be taking medical advice from a self confessed hypochondriac like that guy.
Did he mention the chance of a 17 year old girl dying from the covid vaccine? She did have a covid positive test more than once, could easily have been that. or could be she had some cardiac condition, I doubt she had her heart tested after she had covid.
15 year old girl dies of covid, was due to get her vaccine, but got covid and died instead.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... et-vaccine

[Zedi]

He said the rabies vaccine is 100% effective against rabies. .... But It actually requires a regular booster for those at risk of exposure. Several other vaccines require repeat boosters to prevent breakthru infections. Yes, you can get tetanus after the vaccine, so he's wrong on that too. Kids and adults can also get pertussis, after vaccination for it. I would not be taking medical advice from a self confessed hypochondriac like that guy.
Did he mention the chance of a 17 year old girl dying from the covid vaccine? She did have a covid positive test more than once, could easily have been that. or could be she had some cardiac condition, I doubt she had her heart tested after she had covid.
15 year old girl dies of covid, was due to get her vaccine, but got covid and died instead.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... et-vaccine

You're thinking og Maddy de gray. She was Pfizer experimental child. She's severely disabled from that poison.
Kids are not of any risk from covid but that garbage vax will give kids myocarditis

[Zedi]

Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z

[Silverstarqueen]

Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10928-z

Cardiac arrests were on the rise just as Covid cases were also on the rise. Hmmmm. Why would that be?

[Silverstarqueen]

He said the rabies vaccine is 100% effective against rabies. .... But It actually requires a regular booster for those at risk of exposure. Several other vaccines require repeat boosters to prevent breakthru infections. Yes, you can get tetanus after the vaccine, so he's wrong on that too. Kids and adults can also get pertussis, after vaccination for it. I would not be taking medical advice from a self confessed hypochondriac like that guy.
Did he mention the chance of a 17 year old girl dying from the covid vaccine? She did have a covid positive test more than once, could easily have been that. or could be she had some cardiac condition, I doubt she had her heart tested after she had covid.
15 year old girl dies of covid, was due to get her vaccine, but got covid and died instead.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... et-vaccine

You're thinking og Maddy de gray. She was Pfizer experimental child. She's severely disabled from that poison.
Kids are not of any risk from covid but that garbage vax will give kids myocarditis

No mother did not say Maddie deGaray had heart disease., nor did she die of cardiac arrest or anything else. Mother said she had an intestinal obstruction and couldn't eat, altho Maddie is almost overweight on her tube feeds, so this is not a digestive problem. Mother said she can walk with a walker, so not quite "paralyzed" anymore. I find it odd that the mother does almost all the talking for her, for a girl who is 14, and has not been rendered mentally handicapped by the vaccine.

[seewood]

Want to see the epitome of unhealthy?
Take a cruise.
Currently just finishing up a 23 day repositioning cruise and will be in Ft Lauderdale in a few days.
90% of the passengers are over 65, many over 80 it seems.
The amount of obesity and morbid obesity is astounding.
We have already made one unscheduled stop to off load a passenger but that might be the rampant Covid through the ship.
There are more scooters with attached O2 bottles than in all of Penticton.
The food some of these people have in front of them is incredible. Two smallish meals here is sufficient to maintain ones girth not 3-4 heart attack volumes.
Anyway, it will be nice to get back to my peanut butter and toast before long.
There are those that use the gym here regularly, regardless they are coughing and hacking away.

[alanjh595]

Perhaps, next time, pick a Disney cruise.......better clientele.

That might make you look old to the others.......?

[liisgo]

Want to see the epitome of unhealthy?
Take a cruise.
Currently just finishing up a 23 day repositioning cruise and will be in Ft Lauderdale in a few days.
90% of the passengers are over 65, many over 80 it seems.
The amount of obesity and morbid obesity is astounding.
We have already made one unscheduled stop to off load a passenger but that might be the rampant Covid through the ship.
There are more scooters with attached O2 bottles than in all of Penticton.
The food some of these people have in front of them is incredible. Two smallish meals here is sufficient to maintain ones girth not 3-4 heart attack volumes.
Anyway, it will be nice to get back to my peanut butter and toast before long.
There are those that use the gym here regularly, regardless they are coughing and hacking away.

And then there was Covid.
World Health Org. and CDC and most others have been warning people of the dangers of Obesity, the pandemic of it, and the burden on the system. All science made it very clear that of the leading factors of severe covid, Obesity and its most common other related illnesses, type 2 for one, played the most important factor of severe covid. Not who was vax. and who wasn't. Our government has spent absolutely zero time and energy addressing, acknowledging, promoting, assisting our people who turned out to be the most vulnerable to virus. Millions of people based their judgement of protection for getting out in public, travel and condemning others on only one measure, who was vaccinated.
We let millions of people believe they were OK to travel etc. that were still far more highly vulnerable to not only themselves but others, believe they were the ones that achieved recognition for being right.
Now these same science organizations are speaking very clearly of the dangers, burden on the system with this obesity pandemic and where is Bonnie, Tam or JT. Nothing, silence.
If we do not take this seriously, what have we learnt?


“This virus is terrible, it can hit young people, in particular obese young people. Those who are overweight really need to be careful,” Delfraissy told franceinfo radio.

“That is why we’re worried about our friends in America, where the problem of obesity is well known and where they will probably have the most problems because of obesity.”
Being overweight is a major risk for people infected with the new coronavirus and the United States is particularly vulnerable because of high obesity levels there, France’s chief epidemiologist said on Wednesday.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21Q0S7

Global pandemics interconnected — obesity, impaired metabolic health and COVID-19

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41574-020-00462-1

Almost 74% of adults in the U.S. are overweight or obese, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said

Obesity is among the leading causes of death and disability and is said responsible for about 1.2 million fatalities each year, accounting for 13% of mortality in Europe. No country in Europe is on track to reduce obesity rates by 2025, the WHO report showed, predicting obesity to overtake smoking as the leading cause of preventable cancers in the next decades.

[Silverstarqueen]

Absolutely not true that our government has spent zero time and effort in protecting most vulnerable. Hospitalization and death rates have dropped dramatically. Vaccinations accomplished a large part of that. Vaccinated individuals ARE able to travel safely now. People wanted to get back to their normal lives, and (except for the very elderly) we are nearly there.
Over 200,000,000 obese or overweight AMericans did NOT die of covid, thanks to the vaccinations and great nurses and doctors. Millions of diabetics SURVIVED because vaccinations have greatly reduced the hospitalization time and death rates of all. Being UN-vaccinated would be their greatest risk factor. Since nearly 70% of americans are overweight or obese, then it's not surprising that 74% of covid patients were also overweight or obese. That's just basic logic.

[skydawg]

Absolutely not true that our government has spent zero time and effort in protecting most vulnerable. Hospitalization and death rates have dropped dramatically. Vaccinations accomplished a large part of that. Vaccinated individuals ARE able to travel safely now. People wanted to get back to their normal lives, and (except for the very elderly) we are nearly there.
Over 200,000,000 obese or overweight AMericans did NOT die of covid, thanks to the vaccinations and great nurses and doctors. Millions of diabetics SURVIVED because vaccinations have greatly reduced the hospitalization time and death rates of all. Being UN-vaccinated would be their greatest risk factor. Since nearly 70% of americans are overweight or obese, then it's not surprising that 74% of covid patients were also overweight or obese. That's just basic logic.

Basic logic is people do just fine without the vax as well

[Silverstarqueen]

Absolutely not true that our government has spent zero time and effort in protecting most vulnerable. Hospitalization and death rates have dropped dramatically. Vaccinations accomplished a large part of that. Vaccinated individuals ARE able to travel safely now. People wanted to get back to their normal lives, and (except for the very elderly) we are nearly there.
Over 200,000,000 obese or overweight AMericans did NOT die of covid, thanks to the vaccinations and great nurses and doctors. Millions of diabetics SURVIVED because vaccinations have greatly reduced the hospitalization time and death rates of all. Being UN-vaccinated would be their greatest risk factor. Since nearly 70% of americans are overweight or obese, then it's not surprising that 74% of covid patients were also overweight or obese. That's just basic logic.

Basic logic is people do just fine without the vax as well

Liisgo is clearly very concerned about the perceived "vulnerability" of overweight and obese people. I was speaking to that concern, not "people who do fine without the vaccine".

This excessive concern for those who are overweight (I'm sure as adults they can seek medical help if needed), may not be warranted: At AGE 70:
". For men, total life expectancy was estimated to be 12.3 for the nonobese and 12.4 for the obese. At each age, total life expectancy for obese and nonobese men was about the same.At older ages, the proportion of life lived with disability increased for both the obese and the nonobese, but it was higher at each age for the obese.

For women, the total years lived as well as those lived both active and disabled were longer than for men. At age 70, nonobese women could expect to live 15.3 years; obese women could expect to live 15.5 years. "
Any explanation why obese people (70 year olds) would have slightly more years of life than non-obese?

Smokers, on the other hand, if they live to age 70, lose about 4 years of life. I don't hear too many liisgo going on about how the government should save people from smoking.
" prolonged cigarette smoking from early adult life was associated with about 10 years loss of life expectancy, with about one quarter of smokers killed by their habit before the age of 70."

[hozzle]

Absolutely not true that our government has spent zero time and effort in protecting most vulnerable. Hospitalization and death rates have dropped dramatically. Vaccinations accomplished a large part of that. Vaccinated individuals ARE able to travel safely now. People wanted to get back to their normal lives, and (except for the very elderly) we are nearly there.
Over 200,000,000 obese or overweight AMericans did NOT die of covid, thanks to the vaccinations and great nurses and doctors. Millions of diabetics SURVIVED because vaccinations have greatly reduced the hospitalization time and death rates of all. Being UN-vaccinated would be their greatest risk factor. Since nearly 70% of americans are overweight or obese, then it's not surprising that 74% of covid patients were also overweight or obese. That's just basic logic.

I worry about the facts that you post when a simple search on the internet yields... U.S. population of 329.5 million, times the percent of avg obese of 41.9 percent equals, 138 million.
Where do you get your facts from? Your base numbers are way off!
This is why people on this board should back off on what side is proclaiming the other side of spreading misinformation or telling lies.

[liisgo]

Absolutely not true that our government has spent zero time and effort in protecting most vulnerable. Hospitalization and death rates have dropped dramatically. Vaccinations accomplished a large part of that. Vaccinated individuals ARE able to travel safely now. People wanted to get back to their normal lives, and (except for the very elderly) we are nearly there.
Over 200,000,000 obese or overweight AMericans did NOT die of covid, thanks to the vaccinations and great nurses and doctors. Millions of diabetics SURVIVED because vaccinations have greatly reduced the hospitalization time and death rates of all. Being UN-vaccinated would be their greatest risk factor. Since nearly 70% of americans are overweight or obese, then it's not surprising that 74% of covid patients were also overweight or obese. That's just basic logic.

Instead of responding every single time with the usual deflection from having to acknowledge what is clearly being stated by all the top health scientists of the world, why not actually provide your science showing us they are all wrong?
When a top health science organization clearly shows with all the necessary data that personal health status is the leading factor to all severe covid burden is, according to you, as above, not your logic?
Everyone understands that the most vulnerable needed assistance from the vaccine.
What you fail to respect is why they were vulnerable in the first place.
See, a lot of people want to address why this virus was such a burden. And if the CDC and WHO explain very clearly, we have a health pandemic of obesity and all its related illness, that did in fact burden our society, and its one of the key areas we can all address for the better of us all, For the safety of our families and friends, why do you think the best logic, the answer to it, is always waiting for a vaccine to be manufactured?
Thats not good enough for people who are serious.
Do you actually believe that the vaccine is more beneficial than someone that addresses their own current health status?