Shelter for Homeless?

[captkirkcanada]

This is one of his clueless quotes

Hamer-Jackson again pointed to the idea that social agencies are profiting from keeping people within Kamloops and not helping them solve their addiction issues — and that he could solve the issue by sending people out of Kamloops.


I propose we send him out of canada to north korea .



Mr clueless reid thinks being a addict and being without a home is same thing , plus he is a used car sales snake oil seller . Haha anither wannabee trump is all he is .

[Babba_not_Gump]

This is one of his clueless quotes

Hamer-Jackson again pointed to the idea that social agencies are profiting from keeping people within Kamloops and not helping them solve their addiction issues — and that he could solve the issue by sending people out of Kamloops.


I propose we send him out of canada to north korea .



Mr clueless reid thinks being a addict and being without a home is same thing , plus he is a used car sales snake oil seller . Haha anither wannabee trump is all he is .

So who did you vote for in order to keep the "status quo" in Kamloops?

[the truth]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

[soupy]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

Oh yes. It is a just a matter of time until one of these fires turns into a big-time casualty situation.

[PoplarSoul]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

[Ken7]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

OK, great idea. Now if you have any rules, sobriety or drug free no one wants to live there. Would we be building shelters for nothing then??

In many cases this way of life they will not change. They are addicted and you can't help them. They will have to die or one day wake up and go for help. We know there are places for help, however there is no line up.

It is like the guy with the sign, homeless and hungry. Offer them a sandwich and they will throw it away or tell you where to go.
There no what?

[Babba_not_Gump]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

The first rule for by-laws and police, do not let the first tent get set up.
Cities need a "move along" law, and enforce it.

[Bsuds]

We know there are places for help, however there is no line up.

Then why when someone who wants help has to wait to get into one of these places that have no line up?

[Ken7]

We know there are places for help, however there is no line up.

Then why when someone who wants help has to wait to get into one of these places that have no line up?

I can't answer that for you....never had to go there.

[FreeRights]

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

The first rule for by-laws and police, do not let the first tent get set up.
Cities need a "move along" law, and enforce it.

While I agree, they cannot simply move them along forever. Shelters - whether wet or dry shelters - are needed so that the majority of these people do in fact have places to go.

Due to financial and mental health, there's a great deal more homeless people now than there were a decade ago, and safe, appropriate housing and shelters haven't caught up.

While I'm not in favor of tent cities, it shouldn't be particularly surprising to anybody that they are there.

[normaM]

I still am on the fence about wet shelters. If there was only dry shelters I think more ppl would get on board re building more facilities

[captkirkcanada]

I still am on the fence about wet shelters. If there was only dry shelters I think more ppl would get on board re building more facilities

Wet shelters exist because we dont have a fed mandated safe supply . If we did wet places would not be needed.

I agree with the premise dry is the preferrd model but we need to pressure the feds to allow safe supplys .

[Ken7]

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/397371 ... encampment time to stop these pop up camps

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

Vagrancy law was removed from the Criminal Code in 1983 so the "move along" or "get the heck out of town" is no longer there. It would also be so unconstitutional to treat people of misfortune poorly by saying you're not welcome to sleep in front of my store, my Waterstreet condo, our beautiful public park.

Ebby will make this all vanish, just give him time.

[DarbyD]

Providing homeless shelters is the only solution.
Vancouver, Kelowna, everywhere.
All year around.
Get them off the streets.
No camps allowed.
After that?
I'm not sure.
I mean there are a few options I suppose but are they working?
That's for another thread I guess.

OK, great idea. Now if you have any rules, sobriety or drug free no one wants to live there. Would we be building shelters for nothing then??

In many cases this way of life they will not change. They are addicted and you can't help them. They will have to die or one day wake up and go for help. We know there are places for help, however there is no line up.

It is like the guy with the sign, homeless and hungry. Offer them a sandwich and they will throw it away or tell you where to go.
There no what?

I agree with much of what you are saying. There are some people who have been living an addicted street entrenched life for awhile and have settled into that lifestyle. So they don't want to change and they don't want to be where there are any rules. They don't want to take medication that may help with their mental health. These are usually the ones who cause disorder and disruption if they do go into shelters or housing. These are the people who make it difficult and disheartening for workers trying to maintain safety within a shelter setting. This is why workers burn out, quit, refuse to go back to that field of work. Does society really owe the disruptors a place to destroy?

But for those who do want to get off of drugs or who have a combination of mental health and addiction there are not enough resources to help them. For a decade or more not enough public financing and oversight has gone into affordable public resources to help people. The public facilities that could help them were closed down hoping private enterprise would pick up the baton, that hasn't happened, many of those vulnerable people ended up on the street some becoming addicted. Now we are crying for public funding to build smaller facilities/housing with addiction and mental health supports.

There are line ups of people who want help, just not visible line ups, rather there are wait lists to get into affordable housing with supports for long term "addiction recovery" or housing that provides help to maintain a regular schedule of taking medication to help with mental health. More people are acquiring brain injury from the drugs they are taking and from lack of oxygen to the brain when they overdose. Many of these people don't have the cognitive ability to realize the drugs are killing them or what to do about it.

The majority of funding for this type of housing is on the coast, the Okanagan has very few places for rehab and recovery and yes there are wait lists to get in those which are here.

In addition to all of that we are suffering from an affordable housing crisis. Over the past decade+ not enough focus has been put on building affordable rentals, affordable housing. In our current race to provide affordable housing we can't forget the need for supportive recovery/dry housing and supportive housing for people with complex needs (mental health and addiction illness).

Sorry for the long post.

[captkirkcanada]

See, the ppl who have been looking after those in need just opened another 30 beds , no mayor involved . Bchousing , mustard seed staff , and the alliance church for offering the actual space .

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/K ... ore-church