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I just love the headlines

EU "We gonna give $18 bil to Ukraine"
Hungary "Nope"

NATO "Russias losing cause theyre using old tanks"
Reality "Russia has tanks, Ukraine? Nope"

NATO "Whatever it takes"
Reality "We got some old muskets left, those good?"

West "We are committed to rebuilding Ukraine"
Ukraine "pls send cheque for $300bil, made out to Zelensky"
Reality "How *bleep* much? Hahahaha... ciao"
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It really feels like the Americans are close to surrendering, they just need an out. But Kagan posted an astonishing piece today about why Ukraine should keep fighting, contrast that with recent editorials in the WaPo and NYT saying "mmm... maybe we should talk".

Tells me the neocons and neolibs are getting scared and desperate. Hopefully some adults get to talk to the White House cabbage. Otherwise we could see a scary false flag incident to try and pull the Yanks in.
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gertlush wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 3:44 pm Did you not see that leaked document " instructions from Kiev", something like that. Basically a list of the talking points they push out to their bot farms and propagandists. Guess what was on there "emphasize Russian disorder, chaotic mobilization etc etc"
Of course, but we still get editorial license and can pick from the Russian disorder/chaos stories of our own choosing. You should be thankful I'm not publishing the details of Putin's December 1 meeting from his residence. Who would want to hear the explicit details of an old man that wears bulletproof diapers?

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Meh, I changed my mind.

So, the old guy slipped on the stairs and couldn't get back up. Guards helped him to the nearest sofa and medics arrived moments later to examine him, but they couldn't. The doctors had to help him to the bathroom and into the shower before they could conduct an examination of his bruised coccyx.

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What a crappy job that would be - eh?
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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 5:55 pmYou should be thankful I'm not publishing the details of Putin's December 1 meeting from his residence.
By the way, what happened to all the stories about how he's about to die due to some deadly disease? Supposedy pictures of somebody carrying a doctor's bag around just for him? Annnnnnny day now, right?

I remember your reports about the convoy of big scary black SUVs heading to the Kremlin like back in April because of a medical emergency, apparently... what came out of all that? Are they still driving? A big nothing burger? [icon_lol2.gif] (I liked this one).
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Even Steven wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 7:38 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 5:55 pmYou should be thankful I'm not publishing the details of Putin's December 1 meeting from his residence.
By the way, what happened to all the stories about how he's about to die due to some deadly disease? Supposedy pictures of somebody carrying a doctor's bag around just for him? Annnnnnny day now, right?

I remember your reports about the convoy of big scary black SUVs heading to the Kremlin like back in April because of a medical emergency, apparently... what came out of all that? Are they still driving? A big nothing burger? [icon_lol2.gif] (I liked this one).
You haven't heard about "Deuce"? Or seen the evidence to suggest some "DeepCake" (Yandex, google - doesn't matter) deep fakes? He's not well. That's not my opinion, it's the opinion of many Kremlin watchers. The most unfortunate thing about that is the void it leaves and the uncertainty around the obvious picks to fill it.
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gertlush wrote: Dec 1st, 2022, 11:54 am Seems about right, tack on another 300-400,000 wounded for half a million total.
Yup.

Somewhat confirmed by this Ukrainian internal document that I posted back in August claiming 72,000 dead.

So, another 30K since then in three months. Roughly 10K dead Ukrainian soldiers per month.

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Awful, just awful. Ukrainian govt trying to convince their own populace it's not true, and they're about to win ... but when the European Union officials say 100,000 soldiers are dead ... hard to ignore.
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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:08 pmYou haven't heard about "Deuce"? Or seen the evidence to suggest some "DeepCake" (Yandex, google - doesn't matter) deep fakes? He's not well. That's not my opinion, it's the opinion of many Kremlin watchers. The most unfortunate thing about that is the void it leaves and the uncertainty around the obvious picks to fill it.
Keep us posted with your intel straight from Kremlin top secret meetings [icon_lol2.gif]
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Even Steven wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:14 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:08 pmYou haven't heard about "Deuce"? Or seen the evidence to suggest some "DeepCake" (Yandex, google - doesn't matter) deep fakes? He's not well. That's not my opinion, it's the opinion of many Kremlin watchers. The most unfortunate thing about that is the void it leaves and the uncertainty around the obvious picks to fill it.
Keep us posted with your intel straight from Kremlin top secret meetings [icon_lol2.gif]
Sure, will do. This article is dated December 3, 2022.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/vl ... 7f08f5959b

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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:23 pmThis article is dated December 3, 2022.
Hmmm, let's see. Source of information for super secret intel? Anonymous Twitter account. [icon_lol2.gif] :biggrin: Basically garbage produced for people with zero critical thinking.

I'll give you a couple of Twitter accounts that have details on how Joe Biden is actually a robot controlled on the inside by a midget, taxes are optional, Earth is flat, and 5G causes chickenpox. The same quality super secret intel, seems reliable!
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Even Steven wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:29 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:23 pmThis article is dated December 3, 2022.
Hmmm, let's see. Source of information for super secret intel? Anonymous Twitter account. [icon_lol2.gif] :biggrin: Basically garbage produced for people with zero critical thinking.

I'll give you a couple of Twitter accounts that have details on how Joe Biden is actually a robot controlled on the inside by a midget, taxes are optional, Earth is flat, and 5G causes chickenpox. The same quality super secret intel, seems reliable!
Well, if it sells advertising - I guess that works for the papers. And if it shows you lack reading comprehension skills - that works for me. Telegram. Both articles reference a telegram account. I didn't get it from either of the articles, telegram, or twitter.

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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:51 pmBoth articles reference a telegram account.
Oh my goodness, that changes everything! All of a sudden your super secret intel is super reliable just because it comes from another anonymous social media network where anybody and everybody can put literally anything and millions of idiots around the world will take it at the face value without a single shadow of a doubt and then spread it further like a little robot [icon_lol2.gif] Keep it coming :130:
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Even Steven wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:59 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 8:51 pmBoth articles reference a telegram account.
Oh my goodness, that changes everything! All of a sudden your super secret intel is super reliable just because it comes from another anonymous social media network where anybody and everybody can put literally anything and millions of idiots around the world will take it at the face value without a single shadow of a doubt and then spread it further like a little robot [icon_lol2.gif] Keep it coming :130:
Sure, your wish is my command.

I'm just a dime a dozen poster on here. Unlike you, with the unique insight you must gain by taking your position directly from the Kremlin. So, were you one of the 13 viewers watching Sergey Lavrov's video conference from Moscow to the OSCE Ministers meeting the other day?

Do you know the other 12 by name?

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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 9:21 pm... So, were you one of the 13 viewers watching Sergey Lavrov's...blah blah blah
I like how you quickly change the subject as soon as I point out what a poopie of information you've posted previously passing as reliable and top secret hoping nobody will actually read it to see it's all based on an anonymous social media post :)
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I always laugh when I see American intelligence tell everyone through the news networks about Russia in Ukraine. This is the same intelligence branch that killed a refugee camp worker and his kids because they had "good" intel he was the bomber at the airport in Afghanistan. Turns out that was wrong. Why should anyone believe US intel? It's always wrong.
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Even Steven wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 9:40 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 2nd, 2022, 9:21 pm... So, were you one of the 13 viewers watching Sergey Lavrov's...blah blah blah
I like how you quickly change the subject as soon as I point out what a poopie of information you've posted previously passing as reliable and top secret hoping nobody will actually read it to see it's all based on an anonymous social media post :)
Ukraine Russia war News. 13 viewers watching Sergey Lavrov's livestream broadcast on the MFA Russia feed.

See how I did that?

You can keep shadow boxing and projecting it onto me all you want. I don't find it very engaging. I'd ask where I've "posted previously passing as reliable and top secret hoping nobody will actually read it"... blah, blah, but I can't figure out what you're talking about. You've already proven your reading comprehension skills are lacking and frankly... I don't care.

So, I'll stick with Ukraine Russia war News. You can keep doing whatever it is you're doing. We'll get along fine.
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