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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 6:50 pm No, but apparently you did. 800,000 to 1 million Soviet troops also invaded Poland, in support of the Nazis, on September 17, 1939 through two fronts. So, it was actually 2 - 2.2 million troops between those two allies, at the time, to take Poland.
Thanks for the extra boost to my point.

So Putin was going to "take over and claim" Ukraine with 300k, eh?

...when they needed 2.2 million troops to take over Poland?

Every Russian military planner knows this number too I suppose.

Let me guess - they were using washing machine parts when they were doing the troop calculations needed to bring Russia back to it's former glory and take over Ukraine and absorb it?
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seewood wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 5:52 pm Guess what, time does not stand still. Ukraine did not join this year obviously, however there is next year and perhaps even 2024 or beyond.
The more resolve the US shows for bringing Ukraine into NATO, the harder Russia will pound Ukraine into the stone age.

NATO will not accept a 3rd world country with no infrastructure and no economy, rife with corruption and one-state-police-state Government. Opposition parties are outlawed. There is no open media. Churches are banned. There will be nothing left, no water mains, roads, electricity, communications. US knows this, but they will not lose face and they stand to make tonnes of cash. They will run this until the rims fall off.

The US is the one looking to keep Ukraine whole and harvest it's riches. To Russia, all they care about is keeping Ukraine from becoming a threat to them. Ukraine was "lost" in 2014 when the US regime changed it. Russia will be perfectly happy with a big giant no-mans-land wasteland between them and NATO forces looking to regime change them.
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^^^^^^ :dash:
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm NATO will not accept a 3rd world country with no infrastructure and no economy, rife with corruption and one-state-police-state Government.
Guess Russia will never be a member then eh.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm Opposition parties are outlawed.
In Russia yes they are. Apparently anyone challenging Poo-tin comes down with a bad case of Novichock.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm There is no open media. Churches are banned.
Now now then, pretty sure poo-tin has banned any discussion or even mentioning the word " war" regarding their stupid invasion.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm There will be nothing left, no water mains, roads, electricity, communications.
Bollocks, Hyperbole again
Somehow the Ukrainians managed to harvest and ship grain to starving countries, more than what Russia has done.

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seewood wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:55 pm ^^^^^^ :dash:
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm NATO will not accept a 3rd world country with no infrastructure and no economy, rife with corruption and one-state-police-state Government.
Guess Russia will never be a member then eh.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm Opposition parties are outlawed.
In Russia yes they are. Apparently anyone challenging Poo-tin comes down with a bad case of Novichock.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm There is no open media. Churches are banned.
Now now then, pretty sure poo-tin has banned any discussion or even mentioning the word " war" regarding their stupid invasion.
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The fine for discrediting the Russian army was 30,000 rubles.

Meanwhile in Kursk, Russia... "Sorry for your loss". Here's a matching set of three towels and a bag of vegetables to help ease your grief.

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seewood wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:55 pm

Guess Russia will never be a member then eh.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm Opposition parties are outlawed.
In Russia yes they are. Apparently anyone challenging Poo-tin comes down with a bad case of Novichock.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm There is no open media. Churches are banned.
Now now then, pretty sure poo-tin has banned any discussion or even mentioning the word " war" regarding their stupid invasion.
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:19 pm There will be nothing left, no water mains, roads, electricity, communications.
Bollocks, Hyperbole again
Somehow the Ukrainians managed to harvest and ship grain to starving countries, more than what Russia has done.

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The Russian Ruble is stronger than ever, while Ukraine had to devalue and will weaken more.

Our sanctions carved out Russian energy, giving Putin a huge energy windfall.

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Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 10:04 pm
seewood wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:55 pm

Guess Russia will never be a member then eh.


In Russia yes they are. Apparently anyone challenging Poo-tin comes down with a bad case of Novichock.


Now now then, pretty sure poo-tin has banned any discussion or even mentioning the word " war" regarding their stupid invasion.


Bollocks, Hyperbole again
Somehow the Ukrainians managed to harvest and ship grain to starving countries, more than what Russia has done.

G'night
The Russian Ruble is stronger than ever, while Ukraine had to devalue and will weaken more.

Our sanctions carved out Russian energy, giving Putin a huge energy windfall.

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Meanwhile, in the real world...

If you were to consider all the currencies traded in the world as a whole pie, the Russian Rubles slice of that pie has fallen from 1.1% of the world currency trades in April of 2019, to 0.2% in April of 2022. On the list of Currencies traded by value, it is number 34 of 35.

Right below the Colombian peso and right above the Romanian leu. So yeah, the ruble is worth slightly more than nothing if you can find someone interested in buying it. But hey, keep saving those kopecks - one day soon they might be a collector's item.
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*sigh*

Oh, those Russians and their cigarettes. This time, the Mega Khimki mall in Moscow, and I suspect they'll be a little late opening this morning.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601123478941630464

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601095820979625985

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601108379560480772

Also appears the Barnaul, tire factory is Kaput. All four stories going up in flames. There's video, but it's just the single largest tire factory in Russia getting destroyed. Meh... How about just a screen shot.
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33 fire trucks, 110 firefighters and things were so difficult they had to bring in a fire train. (No idea what that is, I'm nowhere near old enough)

How are things going on the front? Oh yes, I found that whole "Brothers in Arms" vibe. *Typical warnings... war zone, stupid people, doing stupid things*

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601135406460055552

Igor Girkin has published a new video. It's fresh and I haven't been able to find a copy captioned in English yet, but he sounds like he might lose his balance and fall out of a window soon. He's saying something to the effect of the Surovikin defense line - aka the Toblerone Line - is being built to WWII standards and wouldn't slow down a Mongol cavalry.

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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 10:43 pm
Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 10:04 pm

The Russian Ruble is stronger than ever, while Ukraine had to devalue and will weaken more.

Our sanctions carved out Russian energy, giving Putin a huge energy windfall.

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Meanwhile, in the real world...

If you were to consider all the currencies traded in the world as a whole pie, the Russian Rubles slice of that pie has fallen from 1.1% of the world currency trades in April of 2019, to 0.2% in April of 2022. On the list of Currencies traded by value, it is number 34 of 35.

Right below the Colombian peso and right above the Romanian leu. So yeah, the ruble is worth slightly more than nothing if you can find someone interested in buying it. But hey, keep saving those kopecks - one day soon they might be a collector's item.
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Interesting comments by a US Colonel in Newsweek, with the Mozart group (?). Hardly a Russian propaganda mag. Talking about Bahkmut and Russias 9:1 artillery advantage in that sector, and 300-500 Ukie casualties per DAY, plus the practical impossibility of repairing damaged equipment in that zone. Mentioned Ukie forces having an "acute regeneration problem"

So again, Western spin "Dumb Russkies can't take Bahkmut"

Russian facts "We are here to destroy the Ukie army. You wanna keep feeding into the meat grinder? Sure, we'll kill em for ya"
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^^ so, what your saying is a good thing?? Killing ones defending their country is great in your mind?
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seewood wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 1:08 pm ^^ so, what your saying is a good thing?? Killing ones defending their country is great in your mind?
It's a question for their cocaine-snorting president. Why does he like to see his soldiers die senselessly? Why do his citizens need to freeze in the middle of the winter?

100,000 and counting and for what? Few more millions of foreign aid to be funnelled into his and his friends' deep pockets? Remember his accounts in Pandora Papers? Do you think he became poorer after the war started?

Maybe one day he'll realize the reality of the situation, stop bending over for US and NATO, take their dick out his butt, and do what's right for Ukraine - and something that was on the table for 9 years - stay neutral and prosperous.

But my hopes for it are fairly low. Pretty sure he'll either get arrested in another revolt or go down in history like the president of the Chechen republic:

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seewood wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 1:08 pm ^^ so, what your saying is a good thing?? Killing ones defending their country is great in your mind?
No, Im saying its insane for us to keep this going. Tell Zelensky its over, you lost.
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gertlush wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 2:17 pm No, Im saying its insane for us to keep this going. Tell Zelensky its over, you lost.
[icon_lol2.gif] You tell Zelensky.. bet he'd tell you to go elsewhere and propagate.
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He is a ungrateful SOB, that is true. I mean, Canada gave what, $2-$3billion, up in smoke. Glad Im not paying for... ah... *bleep*
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gertlush wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 2:17 pm
seewood wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 1:08 pm ^^ so, what your saying is a good thing?? Killing ones defending their country is great in your mind?
No, Im saying its insane for us to keep this going. Tell Zelensky its over, you lost.
Jeebus, it sure doesn't look that way in Melitopol. They'll be picking up the pieces for days and I doubt they'll ever find them all.

Yesterday there was a brief video clip of Putin sitting beside an empty chair with India's flag flying above it. Modi gave the meeting with Putin a great big last minute Nyet! Today, Russia just did some sabre rattling against Kazakhstan, you can see the impression it made here:
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Full reply video here, courtesy of Gerashchenko... (worth the watch) ---> https://twitter.com/i/status/1601179566071902212

I'd do a run down of things on fire in Moscow over the last 24 hours, but I suspect you wouldn't believe it and we both know it's nothing more than careless smokers anyways. Instead, how about I give you this video of Dmitry Rogozin talking about the denazification operation and how they will have to take Kyiv.



For those of you who don't know Dmitry Rogozin, he was Russia's representative to NATO and then became the Director General of Roscosmos. Lately, he's a consultant working in Donbass, wearing NATO equipment, working for Russia. He's also a very infamous, influential and long standing Russian nationalist. (Neo-Nazi)

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«Белые всех стран объединяйтесь» ---> "Whites from all countries unite"

This is interesting, while the castanet war correspondents are already celebrating the Russian triumph over Ukraine, Igor Girkin, who was just fighting in Donbas a week ago and is currently in Moscow, is contemplating the future of Russia after the impending collapse.

"We have to start thinking about saving Russia..."
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1601864867845054465

So, while Putin is in Moscow waxing fantastic about how he's surpassed Peter the Great, (yeah, that just happened again - he was obviously drinking. No seriously, he was.) the guy that basically takes credit for starting this war back in 2014 is calling it a near defeat and worried for the future of Russia.

Who are you going to believe?
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