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gertlush wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 7:30 pm He is a ungrateful SOB, that is true. I mean, Canada gave what, $2-$3billion, up in smoke. Glad Im not paying for... ah... *bleep*
Dude, Ukraine has received probably twice the amount of the Russian military budget and arms in less than a year.

Where did it all go?

Zelensky and his buddies.

And all the hardware?

Being blown up somewhere in Eastern Ukraine while Zelensky whose dreams of liberating Crimea are going poof is being a sad Napoleon:

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Even Steven wrote: Dec 10th, 2022, 11:13 pm Being blown up somewhere in Eastern Ukraine while Zelensky whose dreams of liberating Crimea are going poof is being a sad Napoleon:
Meanwhile, on the beaches in Crimea...

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As I was saying earlier, here's the picture of Putin meeting with India's flag the other day. He looks sad - maybe pathetic, I dunno, I get the two mixed up sometimes. There's such a fine line.

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So, Russians clearly not interested in negotiations, only crushing ukraine will do. No longer planning to take Ukraine in 10 days, planning on a long war instead. As long as Putin is in power, they aren't going to change their minds without a fight.
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Here is Viktor’s first interview. Some good professional propaganda, criticism, or both. Served 14 years of a 25 year sentence.

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I love how every single pro-Ukie response just skips over their economic collapse and horrific casualties. Peter Pan syndrome "If we just believe we can retake Crimea it will happen!"
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Dec 11th, 2022, 5:59 am So, Russians clearly not interested in negotiations, only crushing ukraine will do.
Russian since Day 1 was open to negotiations.

Ukraine on the other hand did the following:

- Publicly killed a member of their own negotiations team

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- Suspended any negotiations after US/UK told them so like little lapdogs that they're

- Created a law making it illegal to negotiate with Putin

While Russia just chilling waiting till the Ukrainians come around. Which will be a while, because Ukraine isn't capable of making its own decisions, they only do what US/UK allows them to do (so much for being a sovereign country). So, 100,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers will soon turn to 200,000. And the people of Ukraine will suffer because Zelensky is making too much money in foreign aid.

Until one day he gets a call from Biden giving him permission from his masters that it's ok to negotiate:

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Even Steven wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 4:09 pm Too bad 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers had to die because of our arrogance.
"that was the birth of the new Ukraine when snipers opened fire in Kiev killing seventy in 2014 and injuring hundreds of others" - George Soros

I bet rich Westerners will be buying Ukrainian farmland for pennies on the dollar when the dust settles.
Thanks to Zelensky who is so "passionate" about Ukraine he quickly passed a law making it now legal for foreigners
to buy all the farmland. Let the land grab begin.
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The US has now approved Ukraine to start hitting targets deep inside Russia.

This escalation is going to ramp up quickly.

Attacking motherland is not going to turn out well for everyone involved, especially Ukraine. Also interesting the US approved attacks on Ukraine so there is no guessing anymore the US and Russia are directly in a conflict. No signs of either side backing down and now Russian air bases are being attacked.

The chances we're going to see a nuclear weapon go off are pretty high at this point.
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I wish the Ukrainians would take the hint on air defenses. Every day the same request "Moar air defenses plz"

And every day the same reply "We are actively setting up a multidepartmental steering group to coordinate provision of air defenses in due course"

Dudes... they aint coming... nor the planes or tanks or shizzle.
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Mazdatruck wrote: Dec 12th, 2022, 10:54 am The US has now approved Ukraine to start hitting targets deep inside Russia.

This escalation is going to ramp up quickly.

Attacking motherland is not going to turn out well for everyone involved, especially Ukraine. Also interesting the US approved attacks on Ukraine so there is no guessing anymore the US and Russia are directly in a conflict. No signs of either side backing down and now Russian air bases are being attacked.

The chances we're going to see a nuclear weapon go off are pretty high at this point.
Nope, the US has not "approved strikes in Russia". They don't approve or disapprove of anything, because the US is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is. The only provision with the supply of US weapons, and in particular with the discussions around the possibility of ATACMS missile systems, is the US doesn't want to be seen supplying weapons that attack Russia directly and run the risk of escalating the war. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said last week, "we did not encourage and did not allow Ukrainians to strike inside Russia." That's a bit of bureaucratic doublespeak meaning Ukraine decides how to prosecute the war with Russia - not the USA.

Signs of a side backing down? Sure there is, there are signs one side is dealing with rising civil unrest and a crushing blow to morale. I'm sure that will get worse for them, as it should.

There's sure a lot of malls catching fire in Moscow. Another one last night. Meh, I guess that's okay, it's not like they were making much money anyways...

Air support? They are getting plenty and can always use more. A few more MIG 29's upgraded to the MU2 version will be great, and some will tell you that is happening, as far as I can tell, it's still in discussions. They've been getting plenty of MIG spare parts for months now.

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I'm going to assume the new system on its way to Ukraine is an air defense system. I'd suggest, safe to assume, given the name is Skynex Air Defense System. :D

The Leopard-2 Main Battle Tanks are on the table and could be approved in days, if not weeks, but I will admit - or not is still a possibility. Regardless, Russia is supplying Ukraine with lots of tanks and ammunition, crappy though they may be.

The RCH 155 howitzers are pieces of modern hardware recently on the way to Ukraine. 8 rounds per minutes to a range of 40 km is sure to ruin some peoples days.

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Of course, the real secret weapon that is sure to change the course of the war in the coming months, came from Canada. :smt045

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Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 12th, 2022, 3:16 pm because the US is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is.
You're wrong. Biden can fire anyone in the Ukraine government he wants to fire.
So Biden controls the Ukraine government and Biden made Ukraine - Zelensky - sign
a law guaranteeing Ukraine will start a war with Russia to get Crimea back.

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Thinktank wrote: Dec 12th, 2022, 3:33 pm
Drip_Torch wrote: Dec 12th, 2022, 3:16 pm because the US is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is.
You're wrong. Biden can fire anyone in the Ukraine government he wants to fire.
Sound to me like another half-baked conspiracy theory. Kind of like the one you promote that says George Soros's snipers walked in amongst thousands of Ukrainian Military, Police, Riot Police, Secret Police and Russian GRU and opened fire on the Maiden protestors without a single one of those snipers ever being caught.

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Россия, that means Russia, right? Weird that George Soros would dress his secret snipers up in Russian uniforms... no?

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gertlush wrote: Dec 6th, 2022, 12:32 pm Hungary vetoed the EU aid package, ouch, guess no more funds from that quarter for the near future. Uncle Sam? Got your blank cheques ready?

Lots of arm twisting of the IMF, but even theyre not ponying up.

Hyperinflation and collapse of the Ukiebuck...3...2...1...
Have you noticed yet, almost everything you say proves to be wrong?
EU member states reached an agreement on Saturday to unblock an €18 billion package of financial aid to Ukraine for next year.

The countries have circumvented a veto by Hungary, which has kept aid to Ukraine blocked as blackmail so that its European partners would not freeze its recovery funds because of rule-of-law breaches.

"Ukraine can count on the EU. We will continue to support Ukraine also financially, for as long as it takes," said the EU Council in a statement.

The proposal was adopted by the Council. And it will be submitted to the European Parliament for its possible adoption next week, the statement said.

Hungary is on the verge of having €7.5 billion of its allocated share of the EU budget frozen after failing to complete a series of reforms meant to address, among other issues, corruption, irregularities in public procurement and conflicts of interest from government officials.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/10/eu- ... ne-in-2023

I still think this one is a classic...
gertlush wrote: Apr 6th, 2022, 3:46 pm Not much news lately as the Russians are shifting. Ukrainians will have a tougher go of it now, no more ambushing mobile Russian columns. I assume their remaining conventional forces to be eliminated over course of April. Wrapped up by May?
You might still be sort of right, you didn't specify whose conventional forces would be eliminated over the course of April, or which year it will all be wrapped up in May.

Back to Ukraine Russia war News.

Russia is unloading more armoured vehicles in Ukraine. Precisely as planned, I assume.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1602429840086507526

There is at least one Russian war correspondent that has shown a consistently clear eyed view of Russia's war in Ukraine and he's done it again... "Russia is incapable of solving the problem of Ukrainian strikes on our territory". :smt045

https://twitter.com/i/status/1602337229925253120

Careless smoker files... the rubber producing factory in Nizhnekamsk, Russia is on fire. Nizhnekamskneftekhim... ah, let's just call it NKNC, is the single largest producer of synthetic rubber and plastics in Russia. Meh, not that it matters much, the rubber tire factory burned down last week.

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More super awesome weapons for Ukraine! Whole world is behind Ukraine! Modern western weapons are a guarantee to victory!

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