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Hand guns used in crimes come people with the best intentions. Most hand guns used in crimes come from another crime, called B & E.
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Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:20 pm Hand guns used in crimes come people with the best intentions. Most hand guns used in crimes come from another crime, called B & E.
If people did 20 years for b&e we wouldn't have any b&e's. If we had castle/ stand our ground laws, there definitely wouldnt be much for b&e's. Cause /effect/ consequence...b&e can land you in jail for 20 years -best outcome. Worst outcome...oh well, don't b&e.
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If illegal possession of a handgun got you 20 years that would help to.
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oldtrucker wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:30 pm
Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:20 pm Hand guns used in crimes come people with the best intentions. Most hand guns used in crimes come from another crime, called B & E.
If people did 20 years for b&e we wouldn't have any b&e's. If we had castle/ stand our ground laws, there definitely wouldnt be much for b&e's. Cause /effect/ consequence...b&e can land you in jail for 20 years -best outcome. Worst outcome...oh well, don't b&e.
In the USA, the most frequent time a B&E occurs is when the occupants are not at home.
In Canada, the most frequent time a B&E occurs is when the occupants are at home.

There is a reason for that.

This is also combined with the statistical data of anywhere from 500,000 to 1.5 million violent or potentially violent crimes stopped merely by the victim or bystander being armed. Because when faced with their own death, criminals will almost always back down.
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Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 11:38 am
Ken7 wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 11:23 am If people realized that the guns used in Crimes are not legally registered or bought in Canada

Source?
When you fill out your PAL, there are several parts there where when reviewed by the suits back east where there are some checks where a person known to police or a negative comment from spouse or past or present girlfriend may well have your application rejected.
I don't have a RPAL, but I believe they are a bit more stringent in checking you out.
In the lower mainland, there are a ton of :cuss: heads that are on the police radar and in the system. How they could fill out an application form, submit and receive a RPAL would be a mystery.
It is quite evident that firearms of all types are available on the black market (even without a PAL or RPAL) if you have the money to purchase.
Could a firearm be stolen and then used in a crime? yeup probably but I doubt it is as frequent as a vehicle getting stolen, driven to a hit then burned.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 9:23 am
Which one should we ban? Top or bottom?


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The gun grabbers are too stupid to answer this. Stupid or dishonest, I can't tell. No one gets their fact wrong more often than a gun grabber.

In Isreal they had a mass shooting and they think the solution is finding ways to make it easier for the general public to get a gun. They're probably right.

The gun grabbers actually think that banning rifles hunters and sportsman own is going to stop gangs in Toronto from killing each other with illegal firearms.
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Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:20 pm Hand guns used in crimes come people with the best intentions. Most hand guns used in crimes come from another crime, called B & E.
That's a blatant lie. Seriously Jolly, quit the prevarication.

Guns used in crimes are coming from U.S., not legal gun owners: police chiefs

The vast majority of crime guns seized in Canada’s biggest city last year came from the United States.

Testifying before the Commons public safety committee on Tuesday, Toronto Police Deputy Chief Myron Demkiw said that of the crime guns last year that investigators could trace, 86 per cent were smuggled into Canada from the United States — a trend he said has been on the increase since 2019.



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Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:37 pm If illegal possession of a handgun got you 20 years that would help to.
Good thing Trudeau reduced mandatory minimums for firearms crimes.
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oldtrucker wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:30 pm
Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 3:20 pm Hand guns used in crimes come people with the best intentions. Most hand guns used in crimes come from another crime, called B & E.
If people did 20 years for b&e we wouldn't have any b&e's. If we had castle/ stand our ground laws, there definitely wouldnt be much for b&e's. Cause /effect/ consequence...b&e can land you in jail for 20 years -best outcome. Worst outcome...oh well, don't b&e.
If it was lawful to drop dead the person booting in your backdoor, we would illuminate break and enters! When I used to work nights, I used to wish someone would wake me up with a breaking door frame.

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seewood wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 4:39 pm
Dead right wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 11:38 am


Source?
When you fill out your PAL, there are several parts there where when reviewed by the suits back east where there are some checks where a person known to police or a negative comment from spouse or past or present girlfriend may well have your application rejected.
I don't have a RPAL, but I believe they are a bit more stringent in checking you out.
In the lower mainland, there are a ton of :cuss: heads that are on the police radar and in the system. How they could fill out an application form, submit and receive a RPAL would be a mystery.
It is quite evident that firearms of all types are available on the black market (even without a PAL or RPAL) if you have the money to purchase.
Could a firearm be stolen and then used in a crime? yeup probably but I doubt it is as frequent as a vehicle getting stolen, driven to a hit then burned.
Don't list your ex girlfriends if you can't remember thier name. Simple.

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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 9:23 am
Kodidad wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 9:11 am Get rid of guns meant to kill PEOPLE.
Which one should we ban? Top or bottom?


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A full list of all banned firearms can be found here.


https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/upl ... -final.pdf
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Ken7 wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 10:14 am
rustled wrote: Jan 30th, 2023, 10:07 am [
In that example, the admin may well have been too concerned with not rocking the "diversity, inclusion, equity" boat to respond appropriately when told more than once the child had brought a gun to school.

That's a whole different level of crazy. Blaming the outcome solely on guns is a means of avoiding responsibility for failed priorities.
I don't place blame on the gun in this case. I further don't think teachers need guns in school.

We today put such a bad outlook on firearms. Think about your home and consider how many things in plain view that could potentially kill a human. There are easily 10 in my Livingroom where I currently sit, look out for the kitchen.

I think parents have to go back to parenting. We think every gun owner needs to be mentally capable to own. Possibly every parent who wishes to create should be capable of parenting and mentally stable!

The days of feeling ill when you heard someone was intentionally killed are gone, why is that? It is too common I feel due to lack of parenting we have some truly screwed up humans walking this earth.
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I partially blame Hollywood for glorifying and exaggerating the use, effectiveness of guns.
People would know bullbleep when they see it if they had a outdoor survival/ hunter training/ conservation program taught in school.
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Nedroj wrote: Jan 31st, 2023, 2:07 pm A full list of all banned firearms can be found here.


https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/upl ... -final.pdf

I'd love to know how they came to the conclusion of what was naughty and what was nice. I saw the maker of a one of a kind. His gun is on the list. He did a Tik Tok on it, he has a odd funny name for his gun.

It is on the list is you can believe. The funniest part is it is a very small caliber gun, although it is a hand gun.

I suspect they scanned the gun registry and threw the list together, cut and paste.
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Ken7 wrote: Jan 31st, 2023, 2:20 pm
Nedroj wrote: Jan 31st, 2023, 2:07 pm A full list of all banned firearms can be found here.


https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/upl ... -final.pdf

I'd love to know how they came to the conclusion of what was naughty and what was nice. I saw the maker of a one of a kind. His gun is on the list. He did a Tik Tok on it, he has a odd funny name for his gun.

It is on the list is you can believe. The funniest part is it is a very small caliber gun, although it is a hand gun.

I suspect they scanned the gun registry and threw the list together, cut and paste.
Yeah, I saw that as well. A single shot .22lr is banned. lol

Another .22LR is on the list too:
https://calicofirearms.com/product/22lr ... ine-rifle/


Also on the list are Sport Shooting Shotguns and Competition Rifles:

https://benellifirearmusa.com/product-c ... -shotguns/

https://g4cgunstore.com/product/fn-fnar ... blue-gray/


It really seems the list was comprised of any and all firearms found in the Call of Duty video games.
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