The day I realized there is no god.

[cutter7]

Still watering my pet rock waiting for a carbon based life to develop.

Nope, nothing wrong with believing we evolved from that either

[1nick]

^weak.
So once science cracks the mystery of how life can start you’ll throw away your god of Abraham?

[youjustcomplain]

It's a silly concept that there's some supreme being that controls an infinite universe. The concept of God is a simplification of something that's impossible to understand by most people.

Given that belief in god or gods is based on where you're born and what your parents believe, I'd say that if any of the gods worshiped through human history are real, then it isn't possible to understand them at all, but any human. We can't even agree which god is though to exist, or what that god wants. Nobody understands it. Anyone claiming to is lying.

Heaven is another dumb concept. People are naturally afraid of death and it's only natural that the concept of the afterlife would appear in folklore. My wife is religious and completely believes in heaven. I like to annoy her by asking her if there's tv in heaven or can you golf there? if heaven did exist, can you imagine how boring it would be? What do you do, sit around for an eternity making small talk? I would rather be dead although I do think it would be a lot of fun to be a ghost.

Being a ghost might be fun, but only for a few hundred years. After that, I suspect you'd just wish god would let you die.

Here's a question for you. If a giant asteroid completely destroyed Earth - what would God do with his time? Would he cease to exist or is he the ruler of alien races that exist elsewhere in the Universe? Would he get bored and create a new Earth for something to do? New worlds are being born all the time throughout the Universe - but not because a Supreme Being sees fit to create them.

Faith is belief without evidence. As such, I suspect belief would continue long after god was exposed as a fake. That said, I am fairly sure that god will never be proven false. It's a concept that can't be tested.

We are here because of a series of lucky accidents that happened over millions of years. Not because some puppet master looking down on us from above controls our destiny. Religion is for the intellectually lazy.

I agree. We're here because of accidents happening. We know we're here, and that the odds of us being here as quite remote, but that for us to even be thinking about this means that it happened. I don't agree though that religion is Intellilectual laziness.

[youjustcomplain]

What I find amusing is the amount of time "non believers" spend trying to convince others God doesn't exist .
Why waste your time? You don't believe there is anything else and you waste what little time you have on earth trying to convince others there is no God as if there were.

I also find it odd that non believers spend any amount of time trying to convince believers of anything at all. People who believe will continue to believe despite what a non believer will say. That said, I don't think many non believers are really trying to convert anyone to non belief. There is nothing in it for us to convert you. I think the conversation can be interesting and learning other peoples perspective can help with understanding our differences, but conversion isn't going to be a thing.

[youjustcomplain]

Still watering my pet rock waiting for a carbon based life to develop.

Nope, nothing wrong with believing we evolved from that either

If you're actually watering a rock every day, you're doing a very poor study to show that life can't exist without a god. The water, the rock and our atmosphere are teaming with bacteria which do grow and multiply. If you were actually watering your rock, you'd see life begin. You'd see moss eventually, under the right conditions. There is carbon in moss.

But that wasn't your point was it. That the experiment you aren't doing doesn't disprove a need for a god.

If, however, you actually think that an external force (you) applying water to a rock is never going to lead to life, you're wrong.
I do think it's a good question to ask, how did life come to exist on earth in the first place. It's a big question and there are scientists trying to solve that problem by testing hypothesis. That's quite a different process than stating that watering a rock doesn't create life therefor god.

You're welcome to believe whatever you want though. I'm not trying to change your mind or convert you to my lack of god belief. Just pointing out that your ignorance on the subject doesn't support a belief in god. It just shows that you don't understand how life started, and nor do I.

[youjustcomplain]

If all possible things will happen, there could be a god with infinite powers. I'm sure you see the problem here...

Who's saying there couldn't be a god with infinite powers though? The suggestion that anything is possible isn't a problem for the lack of belief in god.

God could exist. Anyone who states that god doesn't exist, needs to show their work. God can not be proven to not exist. God isn't based on science. It's not testable or reproducible.

In a universe where almost anything is possible, god is also possible. Atheists need only not believe in god to maintain our position. That position doesn't rely on science or fact. Just in a lack of belief. Anyone who claims to be an atheist and claims they know god doesn't exist, is lying. Just as nobody can know god exists, nobody can know it doesn't.

Lastly, just because god could exist, doesn't mean god exists. It's not a problem for atheists, agnostics or anti-theists that god could exist. Nobody in those camps have to offer evidence for their lack of belief, just as you don't for your belief, however if you want us to believe in your god, then you're going to need more than what's ever been presented. :)

[77TA]

If all possible things will happen, there could be a god with infinite powers. I'm sure you see the problem here...

Who's saying there couldn't be a god with infinite powers though? The suggestion that anything is possible isn't a problem for the lack of belief in god.

God could exist. Anyone who states that god doesn't exist, needs to show their work. God can not be proven to not exist. God isn't based on science. It's not testable or reproducible.

In a universe where almost anything is possible, god is also possible. Atheists need only not believe in god to maintain our position. That position doesn't rely on science or fact. Just in a lack of belief. Anyone who claims to be an atheist and claims they know god doesn't exist, is lying. Just as nobody can know god exists, nobody can know it doesn't.

Lastly, just because god could exist, doesn't mean god exists. It's not a problem for atheists, agnostics or anti-theists that god could exist. Nobody in those camps have to offer evidence for their lack of belief, just as you don't for your belief, however if you want us to believe in your god, then you're going to need more than what's ever been presented. :)

It seemed like this guy was saying just that, hence my response which you quoted.

-to believe life formed from nothing-

"In an infinite amount of time all things possible will happen, since we are here it follows that it is possible. Not faith just recognition that since it happened it must be possible. On the other side to believe a god with infinite powers did this as his best work is a stretch of the imagination."

[youjustcomplain]

It seemed like this guy was saying just that, hence my response which you quoted.

-to believe life formed from nothing-

"In an infinite amount of time all things possible will happen, since we are here it follows that it is possible. Not faith just recognition that since it happened it must be possible. On the other side to believe a god with infinite powers did this as his best work is a stretch of the imagination."

Ahh, gotcha. Sorry, I only skimmed so far back.

I know it wasn't your statement, but life most certainly did not form from nothing. I believe that the big bang is the best model that attempts to explain how the universe came to be, but even that isn't infinite. It happened in a period of time and time has progressed since. No reason, for the person you responded to, to think we've had an infinite amount of time to get here. The earth is a certain age, so at best, we've had since then to get to where we are.

[Thinktank]

... you’ll throw away your god of Abraham?

Of course.



Our New God is money.

[Dead right]

the big bang is the best model that attempts to explain how the universe came to be

While I agree, we need to look at what came before the big bang and what will come after we disappear.

[Old Sailor]

what will come after we disappear.

There won't be anyone around to care!

[Dead right]

Just because we are gone does not automatically mean all life is gone from an infinite
space with infinite time.

[Dead right]

Speaking to The Telegraph (UK) after winning the Nobel Prize

"The universe did not start with the Big Bang...There was actually a universe already existing before it and the Big Bang was merely the end of that universe," said Nobel laureate Roger Penrose

[Thinktank]

What a bunch of rubbish, you don't have any evidence of god whatsoever. No Christian ever does.

You win. With 200,000 people slaughtered, and every one of the politicians in the West except one in Ireland, cheering for more
blood like when lions were eating Christians

Capleton is finally proven right. There is no god.



^ Proof - god does not exist.

[Glacier]

There is no god because Zelensky met with someone I don't recognize.

Cool story bro, but if that's the best argument you have for there being no god, then God exists.