Ukraine war/President/news

[Mazdatruck]

The leader of China is going to visit Putin next week which means United States can now say that China is aiding war criminals. This is all on purpose all intended to stoke the fires of the pro World War III crowd.

Given the recent developments over the last few weeks what do you think Xi and Putin will be discussing?

They been working together long before Wuhan lab sent out a virus.

They are combining their forces and going to talk about how they are going to defend themselves from the United States making a move on two nuclear powers at the same time. Nobody in history has gone up against a nuclear power one on one before and the United States has managed to drive China and Russia together and wants to fight them both at the same time. Only Uncle Sam could want to dual-fist a nuclear war.

Russia / China will fight back meaningfully. This means instant escalation and attack from the US which means the game here is that the US / NATO will push Russia all the way up to them reacting and then once they react, they will call that an "attack" and retaliate. The US wants war.

There is no dialogue at all right now.

Another drone get taken out, US takes out a jet, Russia attacks jet with S400 and downs it, US takes out SAM inside Russia, Russia targets NATO airbase that the strike came from with small battlefield nuke and makes a statement "do not attack Russia".

US launches.

Nuclear war in a hour or two. No red-telephone phone calls, no diplomacy.

[nucksRnum1]

Highly doubtful there isn’t a country not guilty of either war crimes or crimes against their own citizens in last 100+ years.

Excellent statement. And it is the gyst of what I was alluding to. The difference is that the global jocks (america) and their minions - are going after Russia for war crimes. And the US was able to walk away from war crimes scott free for 20 years in the middle east. If the plebs around the world that are oppressed are going to be championed....we need to champion them all. Not just charge the countries that don't write the history books.

[gertlush]

I'm not sure about any escalation to nukes, what would the US launch a nuke at exactly, Moscow? And they know Russia has a counterstrike ability.

[Thinktank]

Citizen of Cyprus, Israel and Ukraine, He finances every known group of thugs in Ukraine, ....But no matter what happens to Ukraine it will never hurt Ihor Kolomoiski, because his home office and banking is all done outside Ukraine, and his main office is located....guess where....In Bermuda.

Once again, why are you continuing your hate mongering towards Jews and Ukrainians -

Notice the topic was started in 2015 - Will 100,000 Ukrainians be slaughtered? And the answer is yes - but it might go to a million because - FOREVER WAR - is the news thing for warmongers.

Everyone who gave this war a standing ovation has blood on his hands. Do you know anyone who gave the war one year ago a standing ovation?

But now I am confused more than ever before. An article in the latest Penticton Western News about a Ukrianian boy and his mother living in Penticton - his cousin is still in Ukraine, not allowed to leave and this has his mother "heartbroken."

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Why?


Every politician in the West, every TV station, newspaper, magazine, radio announcer says this war is a good thing, necessary, as long as it takes, forever war, Putin must be stopped, etc etc etc so why would these Ukrainians not want to fight for Zelensky's democracy when 38 million Canadians are cheering them on as we speak - with $$$$$$.

Anyone know why Ukrainians would NOT want to fight, when all Canadians all love the idea of fighting?

Anyone know?

https://www.pentictonwesternnews.com/e- ... 880448c671
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[gertlush]

Im always surprised at the number of military age males profiled in these stories on Castanet, CNC etc. You'd think we would have an agreement with Ukraine to deport them back? Guess they don't love freedom.

[gertlush]

Actually one thing this conflict shows is the importance of conventional warfare capabilities. Having a nuclear deterrent is 1 thing but we need tools short of total nuclear destruction.

[Mazdatruck]

I'm not sure about any escalation to nukes, what would the US launch a nuke at exactly, Moscow? And they know Russia has a counterstrike ability.

They can argue that a first strike will take out Russia's upper leadership and they can quickly seize power.

The US used 2 nuclear weapons on 2 civilian cities in WWII and told Japan "we'll keep melting children in their cribs unless you surrender" in indirect terms. They did that to prevent the US from fighting a long, drawn out war with Japan. The US invaded Iraq illegally to kill Saddam, their former employee. The US invaded Grenada with their military to capture a CIA employee. The US entered Pakistan and assassinated Osama, totally illegally, because it suited them.

The US is not above launching a nuclear weapon and taking out a entire city to take out Putin.

Calling Putin a "war criminal" means there is no dialogue with Russia. The next move is either trying to kill Putin with a airstrike or WWIII. If the US "misses" a attempt to assassinate Putin it will be unreal so they cant miss - hence a nuke.

Joe Biden is not calling up a "war criminal" on the phone to talk it out now.

You guys don't realize what is going on.

[nucksRnum1]

I'm not sure about any escalation to nukes, what would the US launch a nuke at exactly, Moscow? And they know Russia has a counterstrike ability.

They can argue that a first strike will take out Russia's upper leadership and they can quickly seize power.

The US used 2 nuclear weapons on 2 civilian cities in WWII and told Japan "we'll keep melting children in their cribs unless you surrender" in indirect terms. They did that to prevent the US from fighting a long, drawn out war with Japan. The US invaded Iraq illegally to kill Saddam, their former employee. The US invaded Grenada with their military to capture a CIA employee. The US entered Pakistan and assassinated Osama, totally illegally, because it suited them.

The US is not above launching a nuclear weapon and taking out a entire city to take out Putin.

Calling Putin a "war criminal" means there is no dialogue with Russia. The next move is either trying to kill Putin with a airstrike or WWIII. If the US "misses" a attempt to assassinate Putin it will be unreal so they cant miss - hence a nuke.

Joe Biden is not calling up a "war criminal" on the phone to talk it out now.

You guys don't realize what is going on.

I can subscribe to some of your assertions. One is that the US is not a saint. Or above reproach. I believe in karma. There will come a time when the US will finally be charged with war crimes. And won't be able to say whoops over and over. Tearing innocent families apart in a collateral war of bad intelligence. Speaking of bad intelligence - I hope people take the US assertions with a grain of salt. Bad intel is a common thing in the US. They didn't even take a domestic terrorist plot seriously or prepare for it.

[gertlush]

I'm not sure about any escalation to nukes, what would the US launch a nuke at exactly, Moscow? And they know Russia has a counterstrike ability.

They can argue that a first strike will take out Russia's upper leadership and they can quickly seize power.

The US used 2 nuclear weapons on 2 civilian cities in WWII and told Japan "we'll keep melting children in their cribs unless you surrender" in indirect terms. They did that to prevent the US from fighting a long, drawn out war with Japan. The US invaded Iraq illegally to kill Saddam, their former employee. The US invaded Grenada with their military to capture a CIA employee. The US entered Pakistan and assassinated Osama, totally illegally, because it suited them.

The US is not above launching a nuclear weapon and taking out a entire city to take out Putin.

Calling Putin a "war criminal" means there is no dialogue with Russia. The next move is either trying to kill Putin with a airstrike or WWIII. If the US "misses" a attempt to assassinate Putin it will be unreal so they cant miss - hence a nuke.

Joe Biden is not calling up a "war criminal" on the phone to talk it out now.

You guys don't realize what is going on.

That seems very unlikely. Nuke Moscow and "seize power"... what stops the Russians from launching a counterstrike? I don't think the American civil body would condone that either.

Principles are malleable, war criminal today, trusted friend tomorrow. We have seen this before. if Vlad called Joe up and said "Lets get China!" Theyd give him a ticker tape parade.

[gertlush]

God I just love this stuff sometimes.

US bans Russian airlines from our airspace.
Ok says Russia, we'll do the same.
American airlines start losing business to other airlines who can still take polar routes over Russia.
American airlines whine to Gov "waaahhh, its not fair, ban those other airlines"

[Mazdatruck]

That seems very unlikely. Nuke Moscow and "seize power"... what stops the Russians from launching a counterstrike? I don't think the American civil body would condone that either.

US/NATO are already attacking inside Russia.

US /NATO used a drone to attack a nuclear weapons air force base inside Russia.

US/ NATO flew a drone with a transponder off right through a area that Russia has closed off and moreless forced the Russians to take it down "Go on hit me, go on, hit me, what are you chicken?"

US/NATO have openly said they want to take over Russia / regime change Russia

US/NATO just issued a death warrant (arrest warrant for war crimes) for Putin.

The US (as crazy as it sounds) is trying to elicit a "counterstrike" from Russia.

What stops Russia from launching a full counterstrike? The CIA probably has plans in place to disrupt communications in Russia and has a few generals that they have turned they can pressure to "coup" Russia by promising them money and power.

The US launches a stealth sneak attack nuclear strike and take out Putin and most of his crew (and maybe a entire city too). They dont see the missile coming so there can only be a counterattack after the first bomb goes off- but Putin and his entire Government are dead. Who is giving the order to attack?

In the confusion, Russia's military would be leaderless and in that time of confusion that's when the CIA turns of every computer and telephone in Russia for a few hours and (they hope) they manage to contain the military in a coup quickly enough to seize control of the nukes.

Sounds crazy but remember the US cooked 2 Japanese cities alive to prevent their soldiers from having to do beach landings in Japan. The US would rather kill women and children and use nuclear blackmail to win wars, rather than let their soldiers fight.

If the US has to kill a million Russia civilians, so what? You know how many hundreds of thousands of American lives would be lost in a long drawn out conventional war with Russia and China? Much easier just to nuke a city.

That's how the US thinks.

[Mazdatruck]

The ICC charging Putin with war crimes and the same week the US congress amending their war powers act allowing them to use whatever means of force available to kill or capture people charged with war crimes is not fluke.

The US did it with Iraq, then invaded and killed leader

The US did it with Libya, invaded and killed leader

The US did it with Osama Bin Laden, entered country illegally killed women and children and murdered Osama.

They can't capture Putin and any attempt to do so would result in reaction from Russia, international outrage.

The only option is to murder him and they can't miss if they try. After the fact the US can say whatever they want.

Getting the public to accept it - when did Canada and the US "check in with the people" about starting World War 3 in Ukraine? You could get the entire left behind a nuclear strike against Russia by simply saying that Putin wants to take hormone blockers away from children. The entire left wing would be saying "NUCLEAR STRIKES ON RUSSIA NOW!".

There is no anti-war movement at all. You are entire pro war world war 3 or pro Putin.

[GordonH]

The ICC charging Putin with war crimes and the same week the US congress amending their war powers act allowing them to use whatever means of force available to kill or capture people charged with war crimes is not fluke.

The US did it with Iraq, then invaded and killed leader
Saddam Hussein wanted to go back to using the gold standard in selling Oil.
The US did it with Libya, invaded and killed leader
Muammar Gaddafi also wanted to go back to using the gold standard in selling Oil.
The US did it with Osama Bin Laden, entered country illegally killed women and children and murdered Osama.
Osama Bin Laden was a wanted man, dead or alive for the Airliner attacks on US soil.
They can't capture Putin and any attempt to do so would result in reaction from Russia, international outrage.

The only option is to murder him and they can't miss if they try. After the fact the US can say whatever they want.

Getting the public to accept it - when did Canada and the US "check in with the people" about starting World War 3 in Ukraine? You could get the entire left behind a nuclear strike against Russia by simply saying that Putin wants to take hormone blockers away from children. The entire left wing would be saying "NUCLEAR STRIKES ON RUSSIA NOW!".

There is no anti-war movement at all. You are entire pro war world war 3 or pro Putin.

I have absolutely no trust in any World Leaders, especially those with the biggest militaries or just a nutcase.
USA
Russia
China
North Korea (this is the nutcase)

[Babba_not_Gump]

Ukraine girls rock.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/who-if-not ... -1.6319129

[gertlush]

Interesting, so latest rumblings are of an Ukie counterattack in the Bakhmut area, potentially within next few weeks. Could be disinformation though and theyd still go for the Crimean land bridge.

Personally I don't think the Americans will allow them to go in the Bakhmut direction, theres no real strategic objective for them that way. Maybe they hope they can still recover those 2 Provinces? Donestk and Luhanks were already lost to them anyway prior to 2022.