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Fake Climate-mongering

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Obviously gratuitous fearmongering without evidence is a daily occurrence. The last 8 years have seen improvement in global coral, yet this article shows a picture of Coral with no explanation. The explanation is, they don't have an explanation to give, especially for the GBR.

"We're dying, we're dying" as we've heard for 50 years now. Every year we are told we have 5 years. Every year some activist or scientists deletes some post, somewhere.

"Everything, Everywhere, All at Once" is a good movie, not to be confused someone's personal interpretation of climate that opposes the IPCC in every area of common sense.


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If what you're claiming is true, it does a huge disservice to it's own message because of people's temptation to over generalize. Those who have already decided that it's all fake climate-mongering will use isolated fraudulent claims to make over generalizations about all the legitimate research. We now know that for example our continent's recent severe climate events are caused by a jet stream that no longer flows west to east in a predictable manner, and we know the warming poles are to blame.
“Because polar regions of the planet are warming faster than the mid-latitudes, the typical north-south temperature difference is lower,” Wettlaufer said. As this temperature difference decreases, it causes a slight drop in zonal winds in the jet stream — which, in turn, leads to more meandering of the jet stream.Sep 12, 2022

https://news.yale.edu/2022/09/12/meande ... t%20stream.
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Poindexter wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 9:14 am We now know that for example our continent's recent severe climate events
What "recent severe climate events"? Good grief, this nonsense with the fear mongering just never ends.
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"Humanity still has a chance, close to the last one".

Lol lol lol

Just let us know when it's the last chance please.
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Oh goody, another climate change denial thread. :D

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I was open minded enough to read the article, but not dumb enough to believe it. They lost me with the remark about, this is almost your last chance. [icon_lol2.gif] Yup, next time for sure.
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steven lloyd wrote: Mar 21st, 2023, 5:46 am Oh goody, another climate change denial thread. :D

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Oh goody, yet another science-less climate catastrophe claim, perpetrated by biased [model] assumptions, not science.
Climate science is too slow and difficult. It is easier to make this stuff up and include an arbitrary global average temperature goal as if it would mean anything.

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Note: this is just a fun graph and doesn't show the long term trend of warming that is happening.

The warming is good though. Far more people die from extreme cold than extreme heat, so a warmer planet means fewer deaths. CO2 is going up and that's good too. We are still in a CO2 deficit.
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steven lloyd wrote: Mar 21st, 2023, 5:46 am Oh goody, another climate change denial thread. :D

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Who is denying that the climate doesn't change? What kind of Orwellian nonsense is this?
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Glacier wrote: Mar 21st, 2023, 9:55 am

The warming is good though. Far more people die from extreme cold than extreme heat, so a warmer planet means fewer deaths. CO2 is going up and that's good too. We are still in a CO2 deficit.
But wait - we might have "severe weather events" (whatever that means) including tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards, which will be "stronger than ever recorded", whatever that means. What do you mean natural disasters have been around for thousands of years? I was told they just started happening in the early 90's. My bad.
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Forgive me, Green Bee, if I don't take your word for it

https://youtu.be/31F9tgCqI4Y

If you'd like the science behind how the the polar jet stream works so you can do you own crack analysis, here ya go.

https://youtu.be/Lg91eowtfbw
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Poindexter wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 11:20 am Forgive me, Green Bee, if I don't take your word for it

https://youtu.be/31F9tgCqI4Y

If you'd like the science behind how the the polar jet stream works so you can do you own crack analysis, here ya go.

https://youtu.be/Lg91eowtfbw
His fact still stands, no matter how you put it or whatever spin you want to take. Hundreds of thousands of years ago there was still the exact same thing happening despite there being no people. You really want to help the environment? Own up. Sell your house, go live in a van, there was more carbon dioxide than ever before humans came into this world. You want to really help the environment? Remove yourself from it completely it or shut up.
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+++ wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 11:38 am
Poindexter wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 11:20 am Forgive me, Green Bee, if I don't take your word for it

https://youtu.be/31F9tgCqI4Y

If you'd like the science behind how the the polar jet stream works so you can do you own crack analysis, here ya go.

https://youtu.be/Lg91eowtfbw
His fact still stands, no matter how you put it or whatever spin you want to take. Hundreds of thousands of years ago there was still the exact same thing happening despite there being no people. You really want to help the environment? Own up. Sell your house, go live in a van, there was more carbon dioxide than ever before humans came into this world. You want to really help the environment? Remove yourself from it completely it or shut up.
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spooker wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 12:20 pm Hundreds of thousands of years ago
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+++ wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 12:23 pm
spooker wrote: Mar 23rd, 2023, 12:20 pm

Yes, the planet will survive ... the biggest question on many people's minds is will we ...
Boy gee I wonder if humans will survive what they already have for hundreds of thousands of years when carbon dioxide was at its highest. It's a mystery for sure!!!!!!!!!
First there were no humans hundreds of thousands of years ago ... now there were? The fossil record does show humans existed 315,000 years ago but looking at the CO2 we've dated through the ice cores the levels of CO2 were not higher than they are now until we go back approximately 20 million years ... so our survivability is still questionable
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