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Ukie probing attacks in that Southern area already. Just seems like insanity for Ukrainians to attack - as soon as they cross the start line they'll be getting hit. And to date in this conflict they haven't launched a large scale attack against Russian troops, much less Russians with total fire superiority and greater numbers.
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Chinese president meeting with poo-tin at the moment.
Who thinks poo-tin asks for Chinese weapons to continue his desire to take over Ukraine?

Who thinks China will give offensive weapons to Russia?

Who thinks that Xi will want to see their weapons used to kill Ukrainian citizens in the invasion?

Would Xi be ok with the backlash if their missiles and other munitions were used in the illegal invasion?

Oh, and the US is not attacking Russia, Ukrainians might have deployed some behind the border operatives to muck things up a bit, but to have any mention that the US has attacked anything on Russian soil without proof is pure folly.
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Ukraine News you won't see on your stupid TV - An entire generation of Ukrainian men are being lost, she pleaded, noting that “recruits” are now being violently seized off the streets. Oyyy - that's not good.


"and you sickening war generals who sit in here and will these men to their deaths

you make me sick"


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seewood wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 9:29 am Chinese president meeting with poo-tin at the moment.
Who thinks poo-tin asks for Chinese weapons to continue his desire to take over Ukraine?

Who thinks China will give offensive weapons to Russia?

Who thinks that Xi will want to see their weapons used to kill Ukrainian citizens in the invasion?

Would Xi be ok with the backlash if their missiles and other munitions were used in the illegal invasion?

Oh, and the US is not attacking Russia, Ukrainians might have deployed some behind the border operatives to muck things up a bit, but to have any mention that the US has attacked anything on Russian soil without proof is pure folly.
Russia is not "taking over Ukraine".

The United States/NATO is trying to take over Ukraine.

The United States regime changed Ukraine in 2014 and Joe Biden put his drug addict son in Ukraine's biggest energy company. The United States was trying to take over Ukraine and were in thr process of scraping out everything of value in the country.

Russia has stopped the US from taking over Ukraine.

Make sure your terminology is correct!
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Mazdatruck wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 12:25 pm Russia is not "taking over Ukraine".
On this much we can agree.
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If the US catches China helping Russia what are they going to do? The US can't afford to sanction China and they can't just attack China and Russia at the same time.

Looks like Uncle Sam's just going to have to sit on his hands and take it.
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oldtrucker wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 1:38 pm It's all fun and games ...
It's all a big scam. Telling us to pay $$$$$ for a slaughter of Eastern Europeans while USAs croooked little
partner - the Saudis - buys from Russia to sell to USA. And leaders like Von der Leyen smile like crazy - as long as it takes.

Why don't the Ukrainians turn on Zelensky and drive him back to New York?



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seewood wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 9:29 am Chinese president meeting with poo-tin at the moment.
Who thinks poo-tin asks for Chinese weapons to continue his desire to take over Ukraine?

Who thinks China will give offensive weapons to Russia?

Who thinks that Xi will want to see their weapons used to kill Ukrainian citizens in the invasion?

Would Xi be ok with the backlash if their missiles and other munitions were used in the illegal invasion?

Oh, and the US is not attacking Russia, Ukrainians might have deployed some behind the border operatives to muck things up a bit, but to have any mention that the US has attacked anything on Russian soil without proof is pure folly.
They will be discussing bigger issues than Ukraine, ya know, their strategy... something we lack. Jeepers, we lectured China about genocide, Putins a war criminal, everybodys a war criminal but know what? Nobody gives a *bleep* what the West thinks.

And the US is absolutely in an undeclared war against Russia. What do you a call a HIMARS strike on a Russian CP targeted by a guy sipping coffee in an AWACS over Poland? In constant comms with Ukie soldiers on the ground.

Google Gorgon Stare, which that Reaper drone was carrying, and look closely at the land in the footage, sorry, I thought it was 200miles out to sea? Hmmm
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And on 2nd thought there will be no imminent Ukie attacks, its just that Wagner guy being a troll.

I suspect thats whats behind the last big push to empty Europe's arsenals. And the last trickle of Leopards and Migs. They still need time to prepare.

I think thats the last ditch Ukie plan - theyll accept losing Crimea and the Donbas, which really wouldnt ever get back anyway. But they need to establish facts on the ground and seize the other 2 provinces back. Then declare a ceasefire with US/Chinese security guarantees.

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Russias maximal objectives would be hold what theyve got, take Odessa as well, demilitarize the rump of Ukraine and let the EU deal with it.
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Current US Senators and Congressmen today saying that negotiations and ceasefires are "completely off the table".

Nothing screams of Ukraine's independence that US politicians diciating war terms.
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gertlush wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 5:43 pm What do you a call a HIMARS strike on a Russian CP targeted by a guy sipping coffee in an AWACS over Poland? In constant comms with Ukie soldiers on the ground.

Google Gorgon Stare, which that Reaper drone was carrying, and look closely at the land in the footage, sorry, I thought it was 200miles out to sea? Hmmm
Targeting a Russian CP from an AWACS, meh, I'll go with "uniformed hyperbole". If you'd have gone with Combat Sent, or Cobra Ball, I'd call it a great allocation of resources. Could be wrong, they don't talk about it much, but I suspect most of the really rich targeting information comes from a CL600 ARTEMIS Brio running racetrack over Romania. (I think I read somewhere that's a contract ship and crew.)

200 miles? Why would 200 miles matter? The number is 12 nautical miles, but even that doesn't matter because Crimea is Ukraine. Great view from 56,000 feet.

Lots of work available in Crimea. Anyone with ditch digging experience has a job waiting for them.

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Canada is insane :

Canada’s foreign minister says China peace talks in Moscow will prolong Ukraine war

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... um=twitter

Peace talks make the war last longer?

Canada wants World War 3.
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Mazdatruck wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 9:10 pm Canada is insane :

Canada’s foreign minister says China peace talks in Moscow will prolong Ukraine war

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... um=twitter

Peace talks make the war last longer?

Canada wants World War 3.
It’s all an effort to decrease surface population, chances are our PM FC Jr is all for it.
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Mazdatruck wrote: Mar 20th, 2023, 9:10 pm Canada is insane :
Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly says China's attempts to broker peace in Ukraine will likely just help Russia re-arm and prolong the conflict.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... raine-time

Because Angela Jerkle admitted Germany pulled off a fraud when they signed the Minsk agreement just to give Ukraine time
to put together a bigger army. Now Felony Joly thinks everyone is that dirty.
German ex-Chancellor Angela Merkel reveals that in 2014, the Minsk agreements aimed to give Ukraine time to get stronger and for NATO to increase its support to the country in the face of Russia.
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