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The plot thickens, Uncle Seppo has twisted the Koreans arms enough that they'll start sending artillery shells to the Ukrainians. That is far far more significant than some Reaga era F16s or Leopard tanks.

Really amps up the pressure on the Ukrainians to launch their suicide mis.. uh... counter attack too. Unfortunately for them the Russians still have more soldiers, ammo, artillery, aircraft, missiles etc.
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Remember this BS news our corrupt media shoved down our throats?
Western countries have frozen or seized at least $9 billion worth of luxury real estate, superyachts and private jets belonging to Russian billionaires since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
:up: And $150 billion was frozen and seized from poor Canadian and American taxpayer slaves to pay for the war, money that ended up back in the hands of western and Russian billionaires.

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Viktor Vekselberg's Tango yacht, which was seized by the U.S.

^ but USA seized $150 billion from poor taxpayer slaves to give to billionaire war profiteers. Good trade for the billionaires. :smt045

It's all BS. Russian and Western billionaires are getting richer.

French billionaires get rich selling arms to China.
French taxpayer poor slaves get poor paying for arms to be donated to Ukraine. China and USAs Larry Fink both own part of Ukraine.
Chinese billionaires get rich buying oil from Russia
Chinese billionaires get rich selling cheap stuff to USA, Europe, Japan and Germany.
USA Europe Japan and German billionaires get rich buying stuff from China and making weapons to be blown up in Ukraine
USA Europe Japan and German poor taxpayer slaves pay for arms to be donated to Ukraine

Ukraine AND Russian billionaires live in luxury in Israel - one Ukraine billionaire living in Israel was visited by Zelensky several times - his name is Kolomoisky, and Israeli billionaires from Russia get richer in Israel.
Israel billionaires buy from and sell to Russia.
while Ukrainian peasants are "mobilized" - forced to go get slaughtered by Russian weapons that were made with money
from oil sales to Indian and Chinese billionaires who got the money selling exports to USA Europe Japan Germany and Canada.

Russian billionaires get rich selling oil and weapons to India.
Indian billionaires get rich exporting to USA and China. We buy rice and tea from India, grown with Russian oil,
while Canada steals $billions from poor taxpayer slobs to give towards the death of 200,000 Ukrainians who also buy rice and tea from India grown with Russian oil.

While the rich got richer we all got screwed.

Isn't this world wonderful? I feel like giving it a standing ovation.



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SCUMBAGS - Ukrainian men who won't willingly go to slaughter.
The arrested individuals presented fake documents, hid in transport, and tried to bribe border guards, according to the Aug. 3 statement. At least 2,400 of them got arrested as they tried to go through the passport control to leave the country. Border guards refused to accept a total of Hr 3.5 million ($95,000) in bribes among the cases.
^ That makes me physically sick. :thumbsdown:

How could Ukrainian men try to bribe border guards with $95,000 to leave the country at a time when Kolomoisky stole $5 billion from a Ukrainian bank and Zelensky visited him to discuss how to spend it, and neither USA nor Israel is arresting Kolomoisky?

THROW THE :cuss: SCUMBAGS IN JAIL.

And I'm sure Melanie Joly and all the other people in our government agrees with me. Disgusting Ukrainians trying to bribe officials. Bad people.

https://kyivindependent.com/state-borde ... ce-feb-24/
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Drip_Torch wrote: May 25th, 2023, 3:08 pm
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You know, for a ship that was destroyed by Ukraine, it's not looking too bad.

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But I'll give you credit where credit is due - Zaluzhny is looking pretty good too for a dead man too.

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Nice of him to show up for a ceremony of adding another ... battleship camo'ed fishing boat? to the Ukranian NAVY.
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There are always 2 points that I see come up in MSM articles of how Ukraine can 'win'.

First is "NATO tactics"... generally it goes something like "Yes Russia has more soldiers, better equipped but you know, NATO tactics". I'd love a real world example of what these actually are and, when they've been proven in battle against a non 3rd world foe [icon_lol2.gif]

The other is "Western tech", which sort of flows from the whole washing machine meme... so, what is this tech? If anything the war has shown that outside of ISR Russian equipment is leaps and bounds better than Western kit.

There is a 3rd factor, and I cringe cause I actually read this in the NYT, is Ukraine's moxie :biggrin: Moxie and a twonie will buy you a cup of coffee, thats about it.
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From the Bush era on the Yanks went all-in on COIN, to the neglect of their conventional war fighting ability. And their air force is doin who knows what with the F35 and the next-gen stealth bomber. It is the US Navy which is truly the guarantor of their hegemonic world power. But thats not much use in a European land war. This partially explains the flailing, disjointed response. The Americans forgot how to fight a real foe.
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To top all of this off we have elites in the West who are, frankly, stupid. Putin is mocked because he references Peter the Great... do you think Trudeau or Biden these dimwits have any historical context or understanding? Absolutely not, their skill set is getting elected into power, not exercising that power or thinking beyond the next 4 year election cycle.
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Re: 5,000 Dead Ukrainians - so far. Will it reach 100,000?

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Thinktank wrote: Feb 10th, 2015, 7:02 am So who killed who?

anyone know?

Our media isn't saying much, for some reason.

How do you kill 15,000 - 50,000 people and not know who killed who?

At least in Israel we knew exactly who got killed, and who did the killing.
But here - nothing.
That's because it's all a scam.Binder(er...Biden)and Nato want a regime change in Russia but don't want to fight him directly so let it be known that Nato is courting Ukraine,Goad Putin into action,give Zelinsky lots of money and weapons and he'll sacrifice his own people in an attempt to dethrone Putin(proxy war).MSM is in on it too so they stay quiet but only to the point where they parrot that Ukraine is and will win.LOL ! Enter Blackrock.Come in with their billions or trillions and take maybe 30% (and counting)of Ukraine assets,promise to rebuild and in exchange grab all their agriculture etc.The goal to control,along with Billy Gates,a good portion of the world's food supply and create more chaos and death.Too many people on the planet ? Create a food shortage.Want to dominate the world(sic)? They be doin it Man ! Right under our noses.Ask Trudeau...He knows but he won't tell.He's preoccupied with taking every legal firearm away from his peons,in the name of safety......Hmmmm...who's safety ?
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SheilaO wrote: Apr 8th, 2015, 8:53 am If you're Ukrainian, and you have pro-russian views, then you are a traitor.

Canada is an ally to Ukraine, Russia is an enemy. In a civilized society, invading a foreign country, and sponsoring terrorism is a gross violation of international law.

Thinktank does not seem to think so.
1/3 of Ukraine have pro-Russian views and millions fled to Russia already.

And Canada is not an ally to Ukraine but to the Zelensky regime - there's a big difference. Canada hates peasants in Ukraine - and is an ally to Fink-Blackrock, and will resort to terrorism for big business.

USA slaughtered two million Iraqis, sponsored terrorism and violated international law.
Fat Nuland invaded Ukraine spnsored terrorism, killed 15,000 Ukrainians and violated international law.
therefore USA is an enemy. Most of the world does not support the USA war-slaughter for Fink in Ukraine.





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Once the F16 buzz dies down the next step will be a Ukie ask for some kind of no-fly zone over Western Ukraine. Or some kind of arrangement where Western pilots 'resign' and then are hired by Ukraine. It will be sold as purely defensive, to intercept Russian drones and missiles. But I do think NATO will start to extend an AD shield over Ukraine.
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Thinktank wrote: May 27th, 2023, 11:29 am 1/3 of Ukraine have pro-Russian views and millions fled to Russia already.
So something good has come from this war.
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Yowzers, the Ukrainians gave Lindsey Graham a "deep dive" into their plans and the Russians are in for "a rude awakening".

I take that to mean Team Biden/Blinken/Nuland sent him over there to give the Ukrainians their marching orders. They keep stalling and Uncle Sam keeps poking them in the back with a stick.

From what Ive read their only objective will be to take this Zapo nuke plant back and call it a win. And you know what, the Russkies might just let em have it.

Then get back to killing Ukrainians.
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Ukraine attacking their own people in Donetsk

like they've done since 2014 - to provoke the war.

It's the people who have taken over the government of that unfortunate country. Zelensky & Co.



Donetsk has been in a war since 2014 - USA bombing Ukrainians.
May those that did this, and have been doing this since 2014, ROT. Please be careful!! Praying. 🙏
I have no words for what Ukraine is doing, the fact the msm has zero intention of ever reporting the facts is disgusting. Stay safe Patrick, please
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gertlush wrote: May 28th, 2023, 10:52 am Once the F16 buzz dies down the next step will be a Ukie ask for some kind of no-fly zone over Western Ukraine. Or some kind of arrangement where Western pilots 'resign' and then are hired by Ukraine. It will be sold as purely defensive, to intercept Russian drones and missiles. But I do think NATO will start to extend an AD shield over Ukraine.
Do you really think Russia is going to say "oh well the NATO pilots changed ID cards so technically NATO is not shooting down Russian planes!"

It's NATO and the United States that make the suggestion that they are not at war with Russia. Russia is the one saying that NATO is directly attacking them and NATO is trying to take over their country.

You're making Russia's point for them.
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Do y'all want to start taking bets on when this widely advertised counter-offensive will begin? Big Z has been talking about it like it's the cure for cancer. Zaluzhny is back in town, all weapons have been delivered, what's stopping Ukrainians from liberating Ukraine and Crimea?

June? This summer? This year? Will it ever happen? Will they try something, fail, and pretend that wasn't it?

I'm on the edge of my seat here waiting for it.

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