Alberta
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Alberta
I don't like handing the Pierre Poilievre supporters here a playbook, but it seems Don Martin doesn't mind doing it out there.
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Yet it doesn't seem there are many conservatives on this forum who are very mindful of the italics.Don Martin: The lessons for Pierre Poilievre from the Alberta election
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-mar ... -1.6419306
She should’ve won big in a walk, leaving the NDP in her dust as the orange-is-the-fade-to-black party.
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CAUTIONARY LESSONS FOR PIERRE POILIEVRE
But, pulling back the lens a bit, there are cautionary lessons in this result for political leaders beyond Alberta in general and for Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre in particular.
Spending buys votes. In the budgetary run-up to the election, Smith unleashed a gusher of petrodollars on program spending and health care while building roads everywhere and a new arena in Calgary amid promises of more tax cuts to come. If Poilievre thinks tough-love austerity is the ticket to victory, he may be mistaken.
Campaigns matter. After entering the campaign as the longshot due to controversial positions and repeated gaffes, a calmed-down Smith seized the centre to ease the many fear factors orbiting her candidacy. It was a textbook case of political reinvention that overcame even the mid-campaign report of her causing a serious ethics breach.
This means Poilievre should be concerned that even the most sullied reputation – and by this I’m thinking of the maligned-in-every-direction Trudeau – can be reupholstered into winning material during the 30-day vote-seeking blitz.
Negative is not a positive. Poilievre should also learn from NDP Leader Rachel Notley’s mistaken preoccupation with unleashing Smith attack ads without a clear policy vision beyond hiking corporate tax hikes. By the time she realized her mistake and pivoted positive, it was too late.
To sum up, Alberta DNA has, once again, proven resilient enough to repress memories of this fractious governing party’s history and see voters gamble on a personality with a controversial track record which would render her unelectable in any other province.
The gaffe-plagued, anti-vaxxing, mandate-hating, Hitler-comparing, DeSantis-praising, ancestry-embellishing Smith has, despite long odds against her, been electorally resurrected from the political grave after a decade of mistakes, miscues and miscalculations.
Whether she is worthy or not, the premier can claim the win this week in what proves the obvious: With extremely few electoral exceptions, ballot box love in Alberta always means having to say you’re Tory.
That’s the bottom line.
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- Insanely Prolific
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Re: Alberta
Guaranteed much better than it did after 4 years of being under the yoke of NDP oppression. Even with all the hate being hurled at Alberta Mennonites.
Emperor Carney now has the official endorsement of Donald Trump. Let that sink in.
Canada is completely broken right now.
Canada is completely broken right now.
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- Guru
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Re: Alberta
You actually support current conditions of our economy, dollar value, crime levels, division of the people, hatred growth, suicide rates, drug addictions. Inflation, cost of survival, tax's, Really? Or are you just needing to support Trudeau for some other reason?
There is no one that could actually be completely fine with our current situations.
"If I find out who's been running this country for the last 8.5 yrs into the ground, there will be hell to pay",,,,,,,,,Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Alberta
I'm fine with Danielle. And she loves the Mennonites. She has to because through Take Back Alberta they're going to help her stay in power.liisgo wrote: ↑Jul 9th, 2023, 5:33 pmYou actually support current conditions of our economy, dollar value, crime levels, division of the people, hatred growth, suicide rates, drug addictions. Inflation, cost of survival, tax's, Really? Or are you just needing to support Trudeau for some other reason?
There is no one that could actually be completely fine with our current situations.

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- Buddha of the Board
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Re: Alberta
Terrific!
Any politician, including Smith, who listens to her constituents’ wishes is a refreshing change in our now gloomy political climate.
I wish her well
Any politician, including Smith, who listens to her constituents’ wishes is a refreshing change in our now gloomy political climate.
I wish her well
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. There’s a certain point at which ignorance becomes malice, at which there is simply no way to become THAT ignorant except deliberately and maliciously.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Alberta
Sorry you Okanagan producers.
Southern Alberta's newest winery is a Little Gem
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/southern-alb ... -1.6472186
Wine lovers in southern Alberta no longer have to head to B.C. for their wine fix after Friday's grand opening of the Little Gem Winery's tasting room just outside of Lethbridge.
Little Gem Winery is 20 minutes outside of town near Nobleford and is the newest winery in southern Alberta.
Field Stone Fruit Wines, which opened in 2005, is Alberta's largest, and oldest fruit wine producer
However, instead of using grapes, they make a fruit wine from Haskap berries and have become a beacon for agri-tourism in the area. . . .
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Re: Alberta
You can make wine from Alberta potatoes or corn but would it be any competition for wine from the Okanagan? Doubtful.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Alberta
Little Gem is making it from Haskap berries.George Orwell 1984 wrote: ↑Jul 9th, 2023, 8:04 pm You can make wine from Alberta potatoes or corn but would it be any competition for wine from the Okanagan? Doubtful.
Spiff wrote: ↑Jul 9th, 2023, 7:51 pm Sorry you Okanagan producers.
Southern Alberta's newest winery is a Little Gem
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/southern-alb ... -1.6472186
Wine lovers in southern Alberta no longer have to head to B.C. for their wine fix after Friday's grand opening of the Little Gem Winery's tasting room just outside of Lethbridge.
Little Gem Winery is 20 minutes outside of town near Nobleford and is the newest winery in southern Alberta.
Field Stone Fruit Wines, which opened in 2005, is Alberta's largest, and oldest fruit wine producer
However, instead of using grapes, they make a fruit wine from Haskap berries and have become a beacon for agri-tourism in the area. . . .
https://www.haskapa.com/pages/top-ten-h ... erry-facts10 AMAZING FACTS ABOUT HASKAP BERRIES
Any thoughts on using them?
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- Admiral HMS Castanet
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Re: Alberta
You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. I'm saying that of the current choice available between Trudeau and Poilievre, the Liberals hold a better path forward than the Conservatives. If you'd like to engage in an actual debate, you can start by stating what it is about Conservative policy that promises a better future.liisgo wrote: ↑Jul 9th, 2023, 5:33 pmYou actually support current conditions of our economy, dollar value, crime levels, division of the people, hatred growth, suicide rates, drug addictions. Inflation, cost of survival, tax's, Really? Or are you just needing to support Trudeau for some other reason?
There is no one that could actually be completely fine with our current situations.
"That wasn't very data-driven of you."
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- Admiral HMS Castanet
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Re: Alberta
A majority of Albertans outside the urban centers seem to understand Trudeau Liberals and the NDP both represent "more of same" redistribution of the wealth created from Alberta's labour and resources into wealthier folks' pockets, "more of same" wasteful and ineffective government bloat, and "more of same" impediments to a better future for Albertans in service to global agendas - and that the only way for Albertans to genuinely move forward toward a better future for Albertans is with the Conservatives.fluffy wrote: ↑Jul 10th, 2023, 5:58 am I'm saying that of the current choice available between Trudeau and Poilievre, the Liberals hold a better path forward than the Conservatives. If you'd like to engage in an actual debate, you can start by stating what it is about Conservative policy that promises a better future.
[T]he people who have infiltrated the Liberal Party of Canada and now possess its soul would like to define the country’s values in a way that turns most Canadians into peasants.... No thanks. - Nigel Hannaford
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"If I find out who's been running this country for the last 8.5 yrs into the ground, there will be hell to pay",,,,,,,,,Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. There’s a certain point at which ignorance becomes malice, at which there is simply no way to become THAT ignorant except deliberately and maliciously.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Alberta
Ride that bull!
And she was quick to throw it off!
"Alberta Premier Danielle Smith poses with 'straight pride' constituent, receives blowback online"
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2023/07/10/ ... ght-pride/
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And she was quick to throw it off!
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"Alberta Premier Danielle Smith poses with 'straight pride' constituent, receives blowback online"
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2023/07/10/ ... ght-pride/
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