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fluffy wrote: Jul 10th, 2023, 5:58 am
liisgo wrote: Jul 9th, 2023, 5:33 pmYou actually support current conditions of our economy, dollar value, crime levels, division of the people, hatred growth, suicide rates, drug addictions. Inflation, cost of survival, tax's, Really? Or are you just needing to support Trudeau for some other reason?
There is no one that could actually be completely fine with our current situations.
You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. I'm saying that of the current choice available between Trudeau and Poilievre, the Liberals hold a better path forward than the Conservatives. If you'd like to engage in an actual debate, you can start by stating what it is about Conservative policy that promises a better future.
Did you notice the ??? at the end of my obvious, direct question???
Ready comprehension shaming, while not understanding my direct question.
A question mark, is a punctuation mark that is used to indicate that a sentence is a question. A question mark resembles a hooked line with a dot underneath (?).
Please answer it. specifically what I asked, as reading comprehension is clear, you actually support these current conditions? Your happy with the current state of these affairs?
Here's another one, If all these items, have gotten far worse, all while under the influence, control of Trudeau, why are you so sure that Pierre would be worse? Do you have proof, or just an itch?
Note, (hopefully this doesnt get removed as I am only asking a question of someone who took a forum topic and went in the direction of federal politics'. )
"If I find out who's been running this country for the last 8.5 yrs into the ground, there will be hell to pay",,,,,,,,,Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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Good news for us if it works out. :up:

Perhaps it will help make the EIA an actual 'International' Airport again. A couple of times lately we've had to drive down to Calgary and park there to avoid the price of a connector from home to take an out of country flight.
Alberta transportation minister tasked with studying rail lines to Edmonton airport and across Calgary region

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton ... -1.6905244

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A hydrogen-powered train would be fitting as Edmonton prepares to host a massive new plant. :up: :up:
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liisgo wrote: Jul 12th, 2023, 7:46 pm Did you notice the ??? at the end of my obvious, direct question???
Ready comprehension shaming, while not understanding my direct question.
A question mark, is a punctuation mark that is used to indicate that a sentence is a question. A question mark resembles a hooked line with a dot underneath (?).
Please answer it. specifically what I asked, as reading comprehension is clear, you actually support these current conditions? Your happy with the current state of these affairs?
Here's another one, If all these items, have gotten far worse, all while under the influence, control of Trudeau, why are you so sure that Pierre would be worse? Do you have proof, or just an itch?
Yes I did, but I wasn't going to be drawn into yet another Trudeau scrap as your comments are based on the mistaken presumption that I support the Trudeau Liberals. I said I support them only in so far as I believe they are a better choice than the PP-Cons. What to you have to support the idea that PP will do better ?

Federally, as in Alberta, the question I see is how Conservative ideals will lead us to a better future than more progressive ideals ? Two huge issues, environmental responsibility and equality, both social & economic, put these two sets of political ideals at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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fluffy wrote: Jul 13th, 2023, 5:05 am
liisgo wrote: Jul 12th, 2023, 7:46 pm Did you notice the ??? at the end of my obvious, direct question???
Ready comprehension shaming, while not understanding my direct question.
A question mark, is a punctuation mark that is used to indicate that a sentence is a question. A question mark resembles a hooked line with a dot underneath (?).
Please answer it. specifically what I asked, as reading comprehension is clear, you actually support these current conditions? Your happy with the current state of these affairs?
Here's another one, If all these items, have gotten far worse, all while under the influence, control of Trudeau, why are you so sure that Pierre would be worse? Do you have proof, or just an itch?
Yes I did, but I wasn't going to be drawn into yet another Trudeau scrap as your comments are based on the mistaken presumption that I support the Trudeau Liberals. I said I support them only in so far as I believe they are a better choice than the PP-Cons. What to you have to support the idea that PP will do better ?

Federally, as in Alberta, the question I see is how Conservative ideals will lead us to a better future than more progressive ideals ? Two huge issues, environmental responsibility and equality, both social & economic, put these two sets of political ideals at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Asked you nicely in the very first post, Pretty sure reading comprehension on that one didn't allow for any other view of it. And I did ask you first before you again started being so nasty. I stated very clearly already in another thread with you involved what policies Pierre has that obviousily Trudeau doesn't. Take a look.
And Trudeau has no policy, take a look into them. Environmental, so called policy, no structural achievability is mentioned. Because its not policy, its virtue signalling. like promising to balance a budget. Equality or victimhood. Another very big difference between the two. One is about victimhood and excuses being the norm and the other is expectations and responsibility as the norm.
Seems the need to support Trudeau is to support a personal position.
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Not sure where you're getting "nasty" from, I merely seek to point out that your version of my "support" for Trudeau is in error. As far as personal opinions on each party's policy, you have yours and I have mine. Tht's what elections are for.

Despite Ms. Smith's win in the recent election, there is still a significant portion of both Albertans and Canadians that do not support her "blank cheque" support of Alberta' oil & gas sector. While the short term benefits of a thriving fossil fuel energy industry are plain for all to see, those benefits do come at the expense of longer term considerations.
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fluffy wrote: Jul 13th, 2023, 8:09 am Not sure where you're getting "nasty" from, I merely seek to point out that your version of my "support" for Trudeau is in error. As far as personal opinions on each party's policy, you have yours and I have mine. Tht's what elections are for.

Despite Ms. Smith's win in the recent election, there is still a significant portion of both Albertans and Canadians that do not support her "blank cheque" support of Alberta' oil & gas sector. While the short term benefits of a thriving fossil fuel energy industry are plain for all to see, those benefits do come at the expense of longer term considerations.

What exactly are the "longer term considerations" of a thriving Oil & Gas sector in Canada?

It's quite simple, we can produce fuels in Canada, ethically and with an eye on emissions; or, we give up our market share and allow Saudis, Iranians and other Freedom-loving countries step in and fill the void.

The decision is easy. Too many blinded by the Liberal $cience to see bigger picture.

Liberal supporters will phase themselves out eventually.

See for yourself:

Modern Monetary Theory

Today's Fascist Liberal $cience stealing money from future generations in effort to buy more votes - just easy Macro 101 stuff.

Very modern, very fascist, yet very virtuous.

A Liberal Sandwich they call it.
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"we give up our market share and allow Saudis, Iranians"

Maybe we should allow them to bleed themselves dry for a while. They have big reserves but have built a cash heavy environment.
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Dead right wrote: Jul 13th, 2023, 1:49 pm "we give up our market share and allow Saudis, Iranians"

Maybe we should allow them to bleed themselves dry for a while. They have big reserves but have built a cash heavy environment.
Ah, but you know, Ezra Levant's, "Ethical Oil."

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raft-cove wrote: Jul 13th, 2023, 11:42 amWhat exactly are the "longer term considerations" of a thriving Oil & Gas sector in Canada?
I was thinking about the longer term considerations of the burning of fossil fuels for energy. That information is readily available, no need to go through it again here.
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If Notley Exits, Who Will Take Her Place?

"The question of “Will Rachel Notley stay on as Alberta NDP leader?” is gradually transforming into “When will Rachel Notley step down as NDP leader?”

Notley has studiously refused to say what she will do other than she’s looking at all options.

However, during conversations with politicians-turned-faux cowboys of all political stripes during the Calgary Stampede this week, the issue of Notley’s future invariably popped up — and the consensus is she will likely bow out late this year or early next.

She’ll first want to lead her 38 MLAs through the fall legislative session that starts in October. As the longest-serving MLA who also happens to be a former premier, Notley will act as both moral compass and training wheels for the largest Opposition Alberta has ever seen.

It’s important to point out that no one is sharpening knives or staging a coup. As the beating heart of the modern NDP, Notley still enjoys the respect of her party.

Besides, Alberta New Democrats are not Alberta Conservatives who have jettisoned so many leaders over the years they should swap their commander’s chair for an ejection seat."


https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2023/07/13/ ... ign=130723

"Besides, Alberta New Democrats are not Alberta Conservatives who have jettisoned so many leaders over the years they should swap their commander’s chair for an ejection seat."

Now that made me laugh. :laugh:
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fluffy wrote: Jul 14th, 2023, 4:14 am
raft-cove wrote: Jul 13th, 2023, 11:42 amWhat exactly are the "longer term considerations" of a thriving Oil & Gas sector in Canada?
I was thinking about the longer term considerations of the burning of fossil fuels for energy. That information is readily available, no need to go through it again here.
There are no long term considerations. So let's go baby!
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fluffy wrote: Jul 14th, 2023, 7:20 am If Notley Exits, Who Will Take Her Place?
It's in the NDP's best interests to choose a new leader who is smarter than Notley in order to carry the party forward.

Notley has made several critical errors that have sewered the NDP's chances in elections.

I would suggest that the NDP look to this new leader for a big bump in IQ and ability. Most certainly, this new leader is a more useful candidate than the usual bundle of activists, union thugs, and SJW's.

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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 16th, 2023, 8:14 am
fluffy wrote: Jul 14th, 2023, 7:20 am If Notley Exits, Who Will Take Her Place?
It's in the NDP's best interests to choose a new leader who is smarter than Notley in order to carry the party forward.

Notley has made several critical errors that have sewered the NDP's chances in elections.

I would suggest that the NDP look to this new leader for a big bump in IQ and ability. Most certainly, this new leader is a more useful candidate than the usual bundle of activists, union thugs, and SJW's.

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I'd say that candidate is over-qualified to be the leader of the NDP.
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Alberta :topic:
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Jul 16th, 2023, 12:57 pm
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 16th, 2023, 8:14 am

It's in the NDP's best interests to choose a new leader who is smarter than Notley in order to carry the party forward.

Notley has made several critical errors that have sewered the NDP's chances in elections.

I would suggest that the NDP look to this new leader for a big bump in IQ and ability. Most certainly, this new leader is a more useful candidate than the usual bundle of activists, union thugs, and SJW's.

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I'd say that candidate is over-qualified to be the leader of the NDP.
True, and is now the premier of Alberta.
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