Should Canada have conscription?

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Bsuds wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 11:42 am Military service would be a very good learning experience for a lot of people.

Might stop some of the me, me, whining!
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Fancy wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 6:03 pm
Veovis wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 12:02 pm How about we start with ever tent city citizen instead, then move to the activists.
Don't they need to be able to tie their bootlaces? Seriously those people couldn't follow orders if their lives depended on it. Would be a great wakeup call though - or not.
That's what I was thinking too, most of them would fail the medical exam. To be clear not every homeless person in "tent city" is non working or addicted, but those who aren't working should maybe have a go at enlisting.
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my5cents wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 6:57 pm When we were in a time of war men of a certain age were conscripted into the armed forces.

Many didn't wait and volunteered, to their credit.

Now,,,, in today's world.... Wouldn't (shouldn't) that apply to everyone of that certain age range ? Male, female and alphabet.

Interesting....
In Switzerland every male has to do a year of service and then for a couple of months every year after that, and they are a never go to war nation.
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Bsuds wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 7:32 pm
Steve Bob wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 7:30 pm

I agree but maybe give them a few other option like Wildfire Service, volunteer work or Senior Care.
They can do those after they learn the discipline of being in the military.
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so here's a question:

Canada's leader declares (because it's a democracy) that every young man must join the army.
But let's imagine Canada just sent half a million guys into a meat grinder, since 2022.

So 80,000 Canadians flee to Poland. (Illegally. Because this is a democracy, you can't just leave)

Does Canada have the right to bring those guys back, to put them in a meat grinder.

Or do those 80,000 guys have the right to say - NO, my body belongs to me.

Anyone know?
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DarbyD wrote: Sep 6th, 2023, 3:26 pm In Switzerland every male has to do a year of service and then for a couple of months every year after that, and they are a never go to war nation.
They are the Vatican's guards. So long as no one attacks the Vatican, all's good with the Swiss army.
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I cannot see anything wrong in training young men and women like the USA’s National Guard or have at least some kind of military training so they know which end of a gun to use should our country ever again be at war. Rather than wait until a real national emergency shows up and THEN start training.

Even if it was only a 3 month stint it’d be better than nothing as we have now.

Who knows, it may lead some to take up a career related to their training, branching out at opportunities they never heard of before.

Wouldn’t it have been great if we’d had trained forest fighters from Canada, for a recent example, rather than shipping in others from elsewhere because our people have no idea what to do?

How many Might have been diverted from living useless, unproductive lives, drug addled, unemployable and only take from the system and never give a thing back except headaches.

In short, I vote yes, let’s do it. But we have to get a thinking govt in Ottawa first
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We support countries that torture and kill women and children.

If you want to die for a corporation profit margins might as well sign up to be private security. If you sign up foe the Canadian military you'll just be working for a BIG CORPORATION that wants top expand into x country so they can make money.

You think Ukraine is about freedom?

Ukraine is about people like Hunter BIden and friends buying up cheap farmland off of corrupt Ukrainians and then setting up shop with North American companies and extracting all the good from Ukraine. We are fighting along side ACTUAL NAZIS in Ukraine right now...for freedom [icon_lol2.gif]

I'd never fight for our country based on what we "stand for" which is just a bunch of lies.
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Catsumi wrote: Sep 6th, 2023, 6:14 pm I cannot see anything wrong in training young men and women like the USA’s National Guard or have at least some kind of military training so they know which end of a gun to use should our country ever again be at war. Rather than wait until a real national emergency shows up and THEN start training.

Even if it was only a 3 month stint it’d be better than nothing as we have now.

Who knows, it may lead some to take up a career related to their training, branching out at opportunities they never heard of before.

Wouldn’t it have been great if we’d had trained forest fighters from Canada, for a recent example, rather than shipping in others from elsewhere because our people have no idea what to do?

How many Might have been diverted from living useless, unproductive lives, drug addled, unemployable and only take from the system and never give a thing back except headaches.

In short, I vote yes, let’s do it. But we have to get a thinking govt in Ottawa first
While I wholeheartedly agree, it's a pipe dream. I hate to say it, but I feel a large majority of youth today would invoke the "make love/not war" ideology - even if the Chi-coms were clearing a beach head on Trudy's own surf mecca Chesterman Beach in Tofino. They're more anti-war than Mike and Gloria Stivic from the Bunkers.

Even the CBC ran a piece recently outlining the recommendations of a retired army commander calling for a national rapid response climate disaster team. While I don't agree with the expected climate change rhetoric, a national force is long overdue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6955373

The problem is, our basic military already can't entice recruits, even with the acceptance of the rainbow alphabet crowds. It's not just Canada's issue - even the mighty US is struggling, and they've recently announced they're revamping their requirements to allow overweight recruits to sign up in the hopes of bolstering ranks and providing a weight loss program.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... risis.html

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... its-rules/

Ramping up an additional force to tackle climate issues, wildfires in particular that would for sure see action every year, would just further deplete an already dwindling population in the barracks.

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I hear you ^^^^

Yes, I suppose it is a pipedream that Canada could be self-sufficient in fighting forest fires, dealing with icestorms, floods and the like; so let’s agree to just limp along, as we have since WW2, expecting the USA to be our rescuers, whether it be for bringing down a Chinese spy-balloon, to telling us that boatloads of refugees from Asia are entering our B.C. waters, or Russian/Chinese subs are in our northern waters. We are primed for a take over.

We are Canadians, after all. We love being looked after rather than forging independence from our neighbour. We’d rather get high whilst watching Oprah and want the welfare cheques rolling in rather than take meaningful action for our country. (Such as it is now).

Wimp of the World! That’d be us.

“If you live peace, be prepared for war, at all times”….I forget who said it, but he was wise.

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Catsumi wrote: Sep 6th, 2023, 7:01 pm snip

I disagree with Wiki on using the word “bloated”, a subjective opinionated term as that refers to a fully military state rather than a state willing and prepared to fight an oppressor.
Lol - even Wiki's going woke.
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Why would anyone bother to volunteer for a military that is a laughing stock worldwide and even amongst the troops . The comments following this article are an eye opener also

https://torontosun.com/opinion/editoria ... e-laughing
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Sep 6th, 2023, 9:17 pm Why would anyone bother to volunteer for a military that is a laughing stock worldwide ..
The USA war pig article wants to take more money from us, to be used slaughtering people.
The United States and its Western allies have embarked on a campaign to beef up military preparedness, galvanized by the grave threat posed by Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine 18 months ago.
^ "Beef Up" means steal our money. to slaughter people for Fink and other billionaires.
The Canadian government is yet to make a formal announcement, but The Canadian Press reported on December 20, citing two anonymous defense sources, that the Department of National Defense has received authorization to spend $7 billion on an initial set of 16 F−35s and associated gear.

That would amount to around $450 million for each F-35, which is equivalent to five times the publicly reported cost of the aircraft, which is $98.22 million per plane,
I bet the cost of those planes makes Joly and Freeload and Trudeau never stop smiling.

The good news is this - I hear there's an opening in Ukraine for the guys who are used to find landmines - an opportunity for dumb Canadians to help democracy in Ukraine.



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