Poilievre's Politics of Abandonment

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"In Pierre Poilievre, Canada has a radical free market zealot whose policies will be disastrous for the poor, working and middle classes.

Indeed, if the Conservatives are victorious in the next election, Poilievre will be the most right-wing prime minister in our modern history. Think the gutting of social welfare from the Paul Martin budgets of the early 1990s meets a supercharged dismantling of the fiscal capacity of government à la Stephen Harper.

Poilievre, to the credit of his communications team, has managed to dress up his right-wing program with populist rhetoric that resonates during a time of rising economic insecurity. But scratch the surface and the neoliberal playbook of slashing social spending, tax cuts for business and the wealthy, and abandoning people to market inequities is plain to see."


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"Poilievre, of course, is not foolish enough to lead with what he intends to privatize and leave to the vagaries of the market. Instead, he is highlighting very real affordability challenges and emphasizing government as the barrier to people getting ahead.

His now familiar script goes like this. There is great dignity in working hard to provide for one’s family. But hard work doesn’t pay off anymore. The cost of everything is out of control due to “inflationary deficits” and an imposing government that cuts into your paycheque with excessive taxes.

Who’s to blame?

Poilievre has homed in on “gatekeepers” as his label of choice for elites that are keeping down working class people. At times this refers to bureaucrats, elected politicians and even central bankers. What matters is that the villain in the story is government interference. Gatekeepers are responsible for making the cost of living greater, whether that’s the cost of housing (through zoning regulations and red tape), interest rates (central bank rate hikes and government deficits) or fuel (the carbon tax).

What is more telling is who Poilievre does not blame: Corporate price gouging as multimillion-dollar executive bonuses are prioritized over raising worker wages. Exploitative employers resisting unionization efforts. Rapacious landlords and the financial speculation distorting housing. Nary a mention of anything that could threaten profit margins.

While Poilievre’s story may be misleading about the culprits for today’s economic misery, he is tapping into genuine fear and insecurity; and into a sense that the elite causing this loss of control in our lives is not only disconnected from the people struggling, but judgemental of how they make their living. (As Poilievre puts it, a government that “sneers at them, looks down on them and tells them how to run their lives.”)

Poilievre dangerously plays to fears about the pace of change and changing social norms. This sense of being judged and under attack animates much of the discourse across Canada’s political right and is prominent in the organizing of Canada’s emboldened far-right white supremacist groups. Whether it is opposition to mask and vaccine mandates, bigoted hysteria over trans rights and gender pronouns, or vehement denial of Canada’s dispossession and genocide of Indigenous people, this potent mix of culture war fodder is marshalled together with Poilievre’s gatekeeper narrative and is leading to massive campaign rallies and ballooning poll numbers. "


https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2023/09/08/D ... andonment/
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Current jack :cuss: policies haven’t done anything to help anyone.

Bring in more people then there are actually homes for… over printing our currency which caused this inflation mess… etc etc

No matter which political party that gets in as government in next election, will either continue screwing Canadians or won’t know were to start to clean this :cuss: up.

So no matter we are screwed.
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GordonH wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 9:27 am No matter which political party that gets in as government in next election, will either continue screwing Canadians or won’t know were to start to clean this :cuss: up.
That's the thing, everybody knows what has to be done, it just doesn't score any political points to actually deal with it. And beneath all the new contact lenses and t-shirts, Poilievre is just going to make things worse for working class Canadians.
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fluffy wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 10:26 am
GordonH wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 9:27 am No matter which political party that gets in as government in next election, will either continue screwing Canadians or won’t know were to start to clean this :cuss: up.
That's the thing, everybody knows what has to be done, it just doesn't score any political points to actually deal with it. And beneath all the new contact lenses and t-shirts, Poilievre is just going to make things worse for working class Canadians.
There is no hope whatsoever that anyone can make things worse than the current ruling ship of fools
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mikest2 wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 10:51 am There is no hope whatsoever that anyone can make things worse than the current ruling ship of fools
There most certainly is. It's all about traditional conservative practices. Deregulation, service cuts, and favoring the rich all come at the expense of lower and middle classes.

What's going on at the CPC convention today ? Have they talked about abolishing the capital gains tax yet ?
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fluffy wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 10:26 am
GordonH wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 9:27 am No matter which political party that gets in as government in next election, will either continue screwing Canadians or won’t know were to start to clean this :cuss: up.
That's the thing, everybody knows what has to be done, it just doesn't score any political points to actually deal with it. And beneath all the new contact lenses and t-shirts, Poilievre is just going to make things worse for working class Canadians.
Last 8 years has got us were actually, just curious about what you have to say.
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Pierre only offers criticism, but no solutions. The hyper-wealthy in Canada allow support to alternate between the Liberals and the Conservatives, which allows their hyper-wealth to continue. It just amazes me to hear lower and middle-income Canadians swing their support back and forth between the two old parties. The wealthy who own your mortgage or apartment building just sit back and watch the cash roll in. It doesn't matter to them which of the Libs or Cons are in power, their wealth won't be taxed.

Do you really think that a free-enterprise nut like Pierre will change the way Canada runs?
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Until these elected politicians can be HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their outright lies and unaccountability nothing will change. We have witnessed and had to endure the most ignorant, low IQ'd and self-serving Liberal Party for EIGHT years. There has never been a political party of ANY KIND in the history of Canada that is this :cuss: ing stupid!

Truckers protest leaders are currently on trial............what a :cuss: ing joke. It should be the entire Liberal party on trial with the lightest sentences being LIFE...........their leadership or should I say the few that do all of the talking and damage would pay a higher price for treason.

...........Poilievre, we will give you 4-years to turn some of this mess around before judgement...........it better be in the right direction..........and whatever you do...........IGNORE the "woke" completely to get the ball rolling on Canada's recovery.
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GordonH wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 11:52 am
fluffy wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 10:26 am

That's the thing, everybody knows what has to be done, it just doesn't score any political points to actually deal with it. And beneath all the new contact lenses and t-shirts, Poilievre is just going to make things worse for working class Canadians.
Last 8 years has got us were actually, just curious about what you have to say.
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Pierre Poilievre is abandoning LGBTQ rights, that's for sure. He doesn't care that kids don't want to disclose their orientations to their parents for fear of violence. So disgusting
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fluffy wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 8:41 am "In Pierre Poilievre, Canada has a radical free market zealot whose policies will be disastrous for the poor, working and middle classes.

Indeed, if the Conservatives are victorious in the next election, Poilievre will be the most right-wing prime minister in our modern history. Think the gutting of social welfare from the Paul Martin budgets of the early 1990s meets a supercharged dismantling of the fiscal capacity of government à la Stephen Harper.

Poilievre, to the credit of his communications team, has managed to dress up his right-wing program with populist rhetoric that resonates during a time of rising economic insecurity. But scratch the surface and the neoliberal playbook of slashing social spending, tax cuts for business and the wealthy, and abandoning people to market inequities is plain to see."


>snip<

"Poilievre, of course, is not foolish enough to lead with what he intends to privatize and leave to the vagaries of the market. Instead, he is highlighting very real affordability challenges and emphasizing government as the barrier to people getting ahead.

His now familiar script goes like this. There is great dignity in working hard to provide for one’s family. But hard work doesn’t pay off anymore. The cost of everything is out of control due to “inflationary deficits” and an imposing government that cuts into your paycheque with excessive taxes.

Who’s to blame?

Poilievre has homed in on “gatekeepers” as his label of choice for elites that are keeping down working class people. At times this refers to bureaucrats, elected politicians and even central bankers. What matters is that the villain in the story is government interference. Gatekeepers are responsible for making the cost of living greater, whether that’s the cost of housing (through zoning regulations and red tape), interest rates (central bank rate hikes and government deficits) or fuel (the carbon tax).

What is more telling is who Poilievre does not blame: Corporate price gouging as multimillion-dollar executive bonuses are prioritized over raising worker wages. Exploitative employers resisting unionization efforts. Rapacious landlords and the financial speculation distorting housing. Nary a mention of anything that could threaten profit margins.

While Poilievre’s story may be misleading about the culprits for today’s economic misery, he is tapping into genuine fear and insecurity; and into a sense that the elite causing this loss of control in our lives is not only disconnected from the people struggling, but judgemental of how they make their living. (As Poilievre puts it, a government that “sneers at them, looks down on them and tells them how to run their lives.”)

Poilievre dangerously plays to fears about the pace of change and changing social norms. This sense of being judged and under attack animates much of the discourse across Canada’s political right and is prominent in the organizing of Canada’s emboldened far-right white supremacist groups. Whether it is opposition to mask and vaccine mandates, bigoted hysteria over trans rights and gender pronouns, or vehement denial of Canada’s dispossession and genocide of Indigenous people, this potent mix of culture war fodder is marshalled together with Poilievre’s gatekeeper narrative and is leading to massive campaign rallies and ballooning poll numbers. "


https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2023/09/08/D ... andonment/
Jealousy is a real issue with those who think they are the influencers, to mention the cbc.
However every common sense person knows their record of disastrous governance over the last 8 years that resulted in the woke & broke, DEI, cancel culture, gender confused, equality of outcome, identity politics activists, who are now running most of our public institutions,racking up a national, provincial & municipal debt combined approaching Two Trillion dollars and nothing to show for.
The yearly combined budget shortfall deficit of $250 Billion, costing Canadian taxpayers about $13 billion yearly in interest payment burdens, just to pay bonuses to public payroll position leeches & public fund profiteers.
The race to the bottom is now in full swing with the early casualties, the hardworking wealth producing tax paying providers & suppliers of societies' daily necessities to survive. They will be soon joint by the boomers, after the society destroying tag team of Trudeau/singh confiscates what is left of their retirement nest egg.
The public fund leeches, bottom feeders, skimmers & profiteers are still okay, however the few left who can still be squeezed will soon be dry to and at that point the socialist gig is death with the usual trial of victims and destruction left behind.
If the tag team dissolves now, the road to recovery under common sense will take 2 terms as many of these addicted to the public trough need some serious transitions to become productive wealth producing & value added workers who have to earn their paychecks, just like the rest of real working Canadians do now.
If singh want his pension in 2025, hers is taking a huge risk, Canada will either be broke or in full scale public chaos. Your choice ndp/lib bobblehead figure.
Funny how common sense doesn't need a $2 Billion year influencers, they raise their own funds to inform Canadians to a common sense approach and those result will speak for them selves.
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GordonH wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 11:52 am
fluffy wrote: Sep 10th, 2023, 10:26 am

That's the thing, everybody knows what has to be done, it just doesn't score any political points to actually deal with it. And beneath all the new contact lenses and t-shirts, Poilievre is just going to make things worse for working class Canadians.
Last 8 years has got us were actually, just curious about what you have to say.
It’s got us to where our so-called (spit) leader is considered nothing more than a laughing stock on the world stage. Look no further than the current G20 meet up, and Trudy was brushed aside by other leaders like the annoying gnat that he is and given nothing more than courtesy acknowledgment. Our drama Queen in chief - a national embarrassment. Well done Libs.
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It is nice to see someone else able to see the truth of Poilievre and what he represents. The first time I saw him after he had won the leadership campaign I felt, 'He is a dangerous man'.
As I follow his antics I realize I was right. Poilievre is a mentally broken and traumatized individual who has no regard for helping Canadians and only his own political agenda whether it coincides with his party or not,
Poilievre has little cognition of facts and like Graham Hancock or Stephen Greer can lie convincingly on any subject at any time.
The time estimate for the next federal election is two years away. Hopefully Poilievre will fade into obscurity?
Justin Trudeau is a great representative for Canada on the world stage and I for one respect him and believe he has the best interest of Canadians in mind when he goes to work
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It's interesting, the bases of this forum topic, the article quoted at the start is an exact example of the propaganda machine at work, under the control of the liberalism of today. Its beyond disgusting how desperate the measure's are being taken to create illusion, misleading facts, mis representation of it all.
Its been brought up in another topic here the reminder of Hitlers powerful propaganda machine and how it worked on so many, and here, in the future, actually today, the use of its methods are even more powerful.
Let's be honest, the use of it, the delivery of it to the hunger waiting warriors, is taking immediately into operation by one group of people, those needing to support the very designers of it.
It's clearly obvious the need for it, the desperation for it, and the feeding of it. If this is all that a political party has as a platform, that party needs to be removed from the country.
Good bye Woke liberalism.

This article, above is not news, its hate propaganda from a well known far left media group.
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