What's the big deal about the Facebook banning Canadian news?

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CountryAtHeart wrote: Sep 20th, 2023, 8:18 am
JLives wrote: Sep 19th, 2023, 9:02 pm

Good. Social media and news should be separate. The algorithms show you what they see a pattern of, that you want to see. For many who use social media as their news source that's not a good thing. No caveats on views in that statement, I mean everyone. And it undermines journalists who are trying to do their jobs. Not reporters who just read the news, journalists who seek it out. We should be going to the source.
And you don’t think people go to the sites that they agree with? Liberal leaning people will go to liberal leaning news sites, conservatives will go to conservative sites.
I got a lot more variety of news when I was seeing it on Facebook because I was seeing what others were posting. Liberal, conservative and everything in between. Now I only see what I actually seek out. I don’t sit on my search engine all day and search out all the different viewpoints on a topic.
What do you mean go to the source? What is the difference if someone posts a eg. castanet story on facebook or if I go to the castanet app and look at it there. It’s exactly the same. How does it undermine journalists trying to do their jobs when their stories are posted? Especially if they post it?
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CountryAtHeart wrote: Sep 20th, 2023, 8:18 am
JLives wrote: Sep 19th, 2023, 9:02 pm

Good. Social media and news should be separate. The algorithms show you what they see a pattern of, that you want to see. For many who use social media as their news source that's not a good thing. No caveats on views in that statement, I mean everyone. And it undermines journalists who are trying to do their jobs. Not reporters who just read the news, journalists who seek it out. We should be going to the source.
And you don’t think people go to the sites that they agree with? Liberal leaning people will go to liberal leaning news sites, conservatives will go to conservative sites.
I got a lot more variety of news when I was seeing it on Facebook because I was seeing what others were posting. Liberal, conservative and everything in between. Now I only see what I actually seek out. I don’t sit on my search engine all day and search out all the different viewpoints on a topic.
What do you mean go to the source? What is the difference if someone posts a eg. castanet story on facebook or if I go to the castanet app and look at it there. It’s exactly the same. How does it undermine journalists trying to do their jobs when their stories are posted? Especially if they post it?
First of all, there are actually some news sources that are unbiased and report facts without opinion. This notion that everything is either left or right leaning is projection because your folk have decided to voluntarily isolate yourself from anything that doesn't confirm your bias. Fact is there are regulations that hold most news sources to task, something your news sources on facebook are unencumbered by.

Secondly, if you understood how content providers make money and how facebook take the lions share of that despite not providing content, then you'd understand how it undermines journalism.

But something tells me that facebook isn't providing THAT content to you.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 21st, 2023, 6:47 am
CountryAtHeart wrote: Sep 20th, 2023, 8:18 am
And you don’t think people go to the sites that they agree with? Liberal leaning people will go to liberal leaning news sites, conservatives will go to conservative sites.
I got a lot more variety of news when I was seeing it on Facebook because I was seeing what others were posting. Liberal, conservative and everything in between. Now I only see what I actually seek out. I don’t sit on my search engine all day and search out all the different viewpoints on a topic.
What do you mean go to the source? What is the difference if someone posts a eg. castanet story on facebook or if I go to the castanet app and look at it there. It’s exactly the same. How does it undermine journalists trying to do their jobs when their stories are posted? Especially if they post it?
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Good post. Irrefutable logic.
Is it though? One is a social media company feeding you things and the other is a personal active choice. I never got my news from Facebook even when seeing it in my feed. But I've always been a news junkie and go right to the source. I realize everyone is different in their news habits. I want journalists to be paid for the content Facebook is making money on for free but it might be better for society to just keep it separate.
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The situation is being manipulated by uninformed people claiming news is being censored. It isn't.

Clicking a screen a couple more times to directly visit a news site isn't a big deal imo. Facebook is slow anyway and full of lots of fake info.
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VaxisSafe wrote: Sep 21st, 2023, 8:42 pm The situation is being manipulated by uninformed people claiming news is being censored. It isn't.

Clicking a screen a couple more times to directly visit a news site isn't a big deal imo. Facebook is slow anyway and full of lots of fake info.
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July 5, 2023.
Trudeau government halts advertising on Facebook and Instagram in clash over online news law
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... a3b49.html

July 13, 2023.
Hey Justin, we're slipping in the polls with no ads on Facebook.
And the LPC opens their wallets to Facebook.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... rnment-ban

If Facebook is good enough for the LPC, it's good enough for all Canadians.
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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Sep 22nd, 2023, 3:42 pm July 5, 2023.
Trudeau government halts advertising on Facebook and Instagram in clash over online news law
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... a3b49.html

July 13, 2023.
Hey Justin, we're slipping in the polls with no ads on Facebook.
And the LPC opens their wallets to Facebook.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... rnment-ban

If Facebook is good enough for the LPC, it's good enough for all Canadians.
Agreed, but better and bestest would be if FB banned LPC.
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