Vernon is Trashed

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Looks like complaints concerning the trash from homeless camps are being heard by MOT

Those Disgusting messes are classified as hazardous for peeps to clean up. What about the wildlife being harmed?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/45 ... less-camps
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We moved here a year ago and I honestly wish we had not rushed in so fast. We need to vote city council OUT and replace them with citizens who have the courage to offend those who constantly play the victim. This program they have of being so nice and accommodating to the helpless drug addicts seems to be feeding the monster. It's done nothing but enable. Maybe good old fashioned three strikes and you out, ie hard work camp up north to clean you up.
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andyrad wrote: Nov 12th, 2023, 11:37 am This program they have of being so nice and accommodating to the helpless drug addicts seems to be feeding the monster.
It's no different from feeding wildlife, except that you don't get fined.
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I’ve been keeping an eye open for trash or litter in 3 Japanese cities and routes betwixt them. Other than the odd cig butt dropped in the dark hours by a sleepless, irresponsible hooligan, nothing. Clean, pristine.

Where have we gone so wrong that burnt out vehicles and garbage litter our forests, and our streets look like the Huns sacked the town?
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The garbage isn't the only thing that makes Vernon look bad. My stepsister who uninvited me to my dad's celebration of life, and her brother Patrick was a prolific car thief. The Okanagan is chock full of people like her
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What a mess.
Societal, wildlife, dangers to attendees...
https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/45 ... less-camps

Besides the environmental damages by leeched toxins. The outright display of
what I assume as stolen property not nipped by authorities is, quite frankly, sad.

I do understand some have a difficult time, that should not mean a free reign
to plunder and run amuck !

Disgusting view, I attempt to avoid the run past as it just gets my ire up.
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dirtybiker wrote: Nov 15th, 2023, 11:46 am What a mess.
Societal, wildlife, dangers to attendees...
https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/45 ... less-camps

Besides the environmental damages by leeched toxins. The outright display of
what I assume as stolen property not nipped by authorities is, quite frankly, sad.

I do understand some have a difficult time, that should not mean a free reign
to plunder and run amuck !

Disgusting view, I attempt to avoid the run past as it just gets my ire up.
My son's bike was stripped clean, and all the parts ended up down there I'm sure.
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Vernon has been the anus of the okanagan since the beginning of time.
I did some time in Vernon back in the eighties, was a dump then, ''tis a dump now.
In my opinion.
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Bigbacardi wrote: Nov 16th, 2023, 6:16 pm Vernon has been the anus of the okanagan since the beginning of time.
I did some time in Vernon back in the eighties, was a dump then, ''tis a dump now.
In my opinion.
I disagree with you BigB. On many visits to Vernon and multiple times passing thru to and fro, I perceived it to be as pleasant as Kelowna once was. In the past 5 years I see a definite decline in appearance and know exactly where to place the blame.

Pigs should be penned
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I drove back and forth through Vernon all last Summer for work. What I immediately noticed on 97 through town was the mix of newer and older buildings with nearly all of the newer ones being the same type of business..............BANKS.
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welcome to the new society of politically correct enforcement and rules.
Set up a dirty, disgusting, dangerous camp with an RV in the bush, in a field, by a creek, in a rest area on the trans canada, its all good and no enforcement or penalty for you, but dare park your RV on your parents property and look out, tuff bylaw and police are there handing you tickets like mad.
We haven't seen anything yet, wait till next year.
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liisgo wrote: Nov 17th, 2023, 7:38 am welcome to the new society of politically correct enforcement and rules.
Set up a dirty, disgusting, dangerous camp with an RV in the bush, in a field, by a creek, in a rest area on the trans canada, its all good and no enforcement or penalty for you, but dare park your RV on your parents property and look out, tuff bylaw and police are there handing you tickets like mad.
We haven't seen anything yet, wait till next year.
Excellent comment... with all that goes on in our city, this is how our by-law folks chose to spend their time and our money. Please bear this in mind come our next civic elections so we can get the right folks on council who actually listen to citizens (tax payors) and make decisions that make sense to all. If this enforcement is not the best example of out-of-control civic employees and bad policies, please provide one. We deserve much better for our 7.85% ... do we not?
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The left hand is at war with the right hand.

Those hideous, messy, polluting and downright fire dangerous encampments in Vernon now have to meet certain ‘criteriums’ before they can be turfed. Our friggin governments couldn’t run a 2 hole outhouse properly.

If this isn’t a head-banging-against-the-wall situation, what is?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/46 ... lor#462006
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Catsumi wrote: Dec 11th, 2023, 8:03 pm The left hand is at war with the right hand.

Those hideous, messy, polluting and downright fire dangerous encampments in Vernon now have to meet certain ‘criteriums’ before they can be turfed. Our friggin governments couldn’t run a 2 hole outhouse properly.

If this isn’t a head-banging-against-the-wall situation, what is?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/46 ... lor#462006
Absolutely head-banging. Imagine authorities showing up and dismantling a homeless camp and telling the residents of the camp to "move on". To where? They'll just move to another homeless camp. It's just common sense.

Without giving them someplace to go to, they'll just form another camp. Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible that "I'm my brother's keeper"? Or was it "I'm NOT my brother's keeper"? It's a head-scratcher.
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Catsumi wrote: Nov 2nd, 2023, 9:46 am Recently I entered Vernon from the Armstrong side and was dismayed to see that the highway into town has now become an open dump site.
Do they have this program in Vernon?
The Adopt a Highway program offers organizations and volunteer groups the opportunity to contribute to their community and province. Groups "adopt" a section of provincial highway to carry out or sponsor activities such as landscape beautification, litter pickup and identifying and reporting invasive plant species.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/tran ... 20species.
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