Alberta

[normaM]

oh good, another thread turned into lets talk about the Liberals
Born and lived most of my life in AB, generally I'd say the people there more no nonsense than other Provinces, well except the buddy Prairie provinces
Maybe it's the long cold winters :/

[liisgo]

Funny, since you need only scratch the surface to see that the lion's share of mis- and disinformation emanates from the political right, and the corporate sector. If we do away with mainstream media then just where will we get the information necessary to make informed decisions ? Better to develop the skills needed to sift out bias and get to the meat of any issue.

Legacy media sources rarely publish outright lies, their penchant is "spin", and "spin" can be filtered out with the aid of research, critical thinking and solid back-ground information.

Nope, the reason so much new sources of news and information has come along and the well proven fact is mainstream media and its corporate control and ownership have been failing continually every year is because people have found them to be horrible sources of biased, mis and disinformation.
Sorry those are facts.
Argue all you want, but if the majority of the people are turning against these sources you claim are great, then maybe its the ones left that have something different going on.
The video above posted is a great example of drama and creating fake narrative for a political need. Argue it, not some narrative.

[liisgo]

oh good, another thread turned into lets talk about the Liberals
Born and lived most of my life in AB, generally I'd say the people there more no nonsense than other Provinces, well except the buddy Prairie provinces
Maybe it's the long cold winters :/

The thread was immediately hijacked by the liberalists and turned into a "i'm a liberest so I must immediately cast my negativity upon them based only on the fact that I hate their new government" thing.

[fluffy]

Argue all you want, but if the majority of the people are turning against these sources you claim are great, then maybe its the ones left that have something different going on.

There are most definitely sources that "have something different going on". A good tool for assessing how much faith you put in any source is one or many of the fact-checking/bias ratings sites that have come up recently as the need for them has become more pronounced.

https://library.csi.cuny.edu/c.php?g=619342&p=4310783

I see people posting links to sources that are off the deep end of bias and honesty, You can bet these posters haven't taken the time to check into the background of the sources they are supporting, which makes their credibility equally suspect.

[George Orwell 1984]

Absolutely one should be checking their news sites for bias , credibility and honesty . For example check this far left rag that perpetually posts misinformation ( aka lies ) for their funding . Also note that the media bias fact check site shows their bias by placing hit piece ads against Stephen Harper .

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[liisgo]

Argue all you want, but if the majority of the people are turning against these sources you claim are great, then maybe its the ones left that have something different going on.

There are most definitely sources that "have something different going on". A good tool for assessing how much faith you put in any source is one or many of the fact-checking/bias ratings sites that have come up recently as the need for them has become more pronounced.

https://library.csi.cuny.edu/c.php?g=619342&p=4310783

I see people posting links to sources that are off the deep end of bias and honesty, You can bet these posters haven't taken the time to check into the background of the sources they are supporting, which makes their credibility equally suspect.

Mainstream media, the big guys, have all been seeing massive declines in viewership. Yet new smaller sources are on the rise. The most common reason for this isnt people checking a fact site its recognizing the extremely obvious political influences and need for drama created narratives.
Take any mainstream media, and try to address its decline in viewership with its a good reliable news source thing, like CBC or legacy, msn and cnn.
How sad is it that we need more and more fact checking tools, when all this media has to do is be a leader in its field and do its job.

[The Green Barbarian]

She makes good sense.

[raft-cove]

Where did all the Alberta experts go who said an NDP prov govt was "Inevitable" ??

Seems quiet these days, maybe they are afraid to admit their error.

Maybe they can't afford internets.

[liisgo]

Argue all you want, but if the majority of the people are turning against these sources you claim are great, then maybe its the ones left that have something different going on.

There are most definitely sources that "have something different going on". A good tool for assessing how much faith you put in any source is one or many of the fact-checking/bias ratings sites that have come up recently as the need for them has become more pronounced.

https://library.csi.cuny.edu/c.php?g=619342&p=4310783

I see people posting links to sources that are off the deep end of bias and honesty, You can bet these posters haven't taken the time to check into the background of the sources they are supporting, which makes their credibility equally suspect.

Yet people still support this liberalist party under trudeau and the mega rich control. One doesnt need a background check to see the corruption, the bias political usages of mainstream media. Go back and look at the video posted that started this. Clearly the reporter and its media management are committed to creating pro liberal propaganda as clearly seen if one watches it . No would a fact check site acknowledge that is so clear for the rest of us to see. Not a chance.
Canadian media has completely failed, which declining viewership shows. Reason for this is lack of creditability and honestly which the majority of people acknowledge.

[Babba_not_Gump]

Where did all the Alberta experts go who said an NDP prov govt was "Inevitable" ??

Seems quiet these days, maybe they are afraid to admit their error.

Maybe they can't afford internets.

A bit of a feather in Rachel Notley's hat today. Warren Kinsella said Steven Guilbeault makes her look like Winston Churchill.

[GonnaMissThis]

Iiisgo…it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how our media is biased. The first article about Premier Smith new policy on Transgender kids and health care that was posted quoted her on the pronouns and parental consent, the age restriction on puberty blockers and surgery but said nothing about about all the other things that she was doing for the transgender community. Like bringing in specialized doctors and therapists and creating better healthcare. Creating better supports for families. You didn’t find that out until you actually listened to her speech in entirety. So either the journalists (using that term loosely here) didn’t listen to her entire speech or they were purposely selective in what they told the public. I kind of think they were purposely selective. And for what reason? To create division? To perpetuate the dialogue of the conservatives hate transgender people! We all have seen the lies that get spewed out from this media nonsense. It’s not a secret. I just wish some people weren’t so blind to it. And that people weren’t allowed to get with it.

[fluffy]

We all have seen the lies that get spewed out from this media nonsense. It’s not a secret. I just wish some people weren’t so blind to it. And that people weren’t allowed to get with it.

To be truthful, it's not lies so much as "selective coverage" as you described earlier in your post. They don't have to lie if they can urge the reader towards an incorrect conclusion by strategic omissions in what they print.

[fluffy]

Yet people still support this liberalist party under trudeau and the mega rich control. One doesnt need a background check to see the corruption, the bias political usages of mainstream media.

But a background check certainly helps if one has any level of objectivity when gathering information. The assumption that right-wing media is any less biased than left-leaning sources is totally without merit. They all do it. All of them. What people are missing in large part is the influence that corporate interests have over the whole picture, and that keeping us squabbling over right vs. left and Trudeau vs. Poilievre serves very well to keep the voting public from looking at just who the man behind the curtain really is.

[liisgo]

Yet people still support this liberalist party under trudeau and the mega rich control. One doesnt need a background check to see the corruption, the bias political usages of mainstream media.

But a background check certainly helps if one has any level of objectivity when gathering information. The assumption that right-wing media is any less biased than left-leaning sources is totally without merit. They all do it. All of them. What people are missing in large part is the influence that corporate interests have over the whole picture, and that keeping us squabbling over right vs. left and Trudeau vs. Poilievre serves very well to keep the voting public from looking at just who the man behind the curtain really is.

Its the left leaning media and control via their rich owners that are losing all viewership. Fact checking started when trudeau took power, as it had to be, by now, everyone has learnt the valuable lesson that for really news, new sources had to be established. Seems mainstream media created their own competition.
How stupid was that.

[fluffy]

Fact checking started when trudeau took power, as it had to be, by now, everyone has learnt the valuable lesson that for really news, new sources had to be established. Seems mainstream media created their own competition.
How stupid was that.

Fact checking has always been around to some degree, but it shifted into high gear when Trump was elected, and for obvious reasons.