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Veovis wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 10:31 am
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 26th, 2024, 3:53 pm Like I said earlier, politicians can believe what they want.
Actually what you said earlier
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 21st, 2024, 8:44 pm As long as the extreme right wing fascist christian nationalist/evangelicals have a little home then the vote can split all it likes. It's when they join together that they become a problem.

Not a balanced comment at all. Very clearly meant to be what it always means. Any one other than NDP is *insert the usual list of bigotry here*
That IS saying that they can believe whatever they like. I'll say it again, it's that they want to force their beliefs on the rest of us. That's when I have a problem. Those that are more socially conscious don't seem to have that same motivation. I would have the same comment if a non-Con were forcing whatever religious belief on everybody.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:07 am

That IS saying that they can believe whatever they like. I'll say it again, it's that they want to force their beliefs on the rest of us. That's when I have a problem.
LOL!! Says the guy who wants to force his beliefs on the rest of us about driving electric cars, paying carbon taxes, and generally bending us all over against our wills to screw us all until we're poor.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:00 am Like I said, for those that are more socially conscious, whatever supernatural thingy they might believe in, they don't seem to bring those edicts into the halls of power. Therefor I don't care what thingy they believe in. They check that at the door. The opposite side can't do that. They want to force their beliefs on the rest of us.
The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly DO bring their beliefs and "edicts" into the halls of power.

The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly do NOT "check that at the door".

The "socially conscious" "progressives" have been forcing their beliefs on the rest of us for quite some time, and to pretend otherwise - while hyping fears about what socially conscious Conservatives "might" do! - is incredibly silly.
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Glacier wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:14 am
LOL!! Says the guy who wants to force his beliefs on the rest of us about driving electric cars, paying carbon taxes, and generally bending us all over against our wills to screw us all until we're poor.
LOL!! Sigh. When have I ever said such a thing? Never.
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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:17 am
LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:00 am Like I said, for those that are more socially conscious, whatever supernatural thingy they might believe in, they don't seem to bring those edicts into the halls of power. Therefor I don't care what thingy they believe in. They check that at the door. The opposite side can't do that. They want to force their beliefs on the rest of us.
The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly DO bring their beliefs and "edicts" into the halls of power.

The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly do NOT "check that at the door".

The "socially conscious" "progressives" have been forcing their beliefs on the rest of us for quite some time, and to pretend otherwise - while hyping fears about what socially conscious Conservatives "might" do! - is incredibly silly.
RELIGIOUS beliefs.
You mean "socially conscious" "conservatives"? Funny you didn't put those in your quotes.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:44 am
rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:17 am The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly DO bring their beliefs and "edicts" into the halls of power.

The "socially conscious" "progressives" certainly do NOT "check that at the door".

The "socially conscious" "progressives" have been forcing their beliefs on the rest of us for quite some time, and to pretend otherwise - while hyping fears about what socially conscious Conservatives "might" do! - is incredibly silly.
RELIGIOUS beliefs.
That's quite the double standard, then. And it's illogical, with no basis in reason, because:
  • There's certainly a religious element to the earth worship driving some of the "progressive" "edicts".
  • There's certainly a religious-cult-element to the commitment to sacrificing people in the name of climate change.
  • Even DEI has plenty in common with religions: it's blasphemy to question the edicts of its high priests, and there's considerable dogma involved.
These posts meant to instill fear of those with more traditional religious beliefs are sheer bigotry - stereotyping of the worst sort.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:30 am

LOL!! Sigh. When have I ever said such a thing? Never.
Cool, so you're against the carbon tax... I stand corrected...
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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:57 am That's quite the double standard.

There's certainly a religious element to the earth worship driving some of the "progressive" "edicts".

There's certainly a religious-cult-element to the commitment to sacrificing people in the name of climate change.

Even DEI has plenty in common with religions: it's blasphemy to question the edicts of its high priests, and there's considerable dogma involved.

These posts meant to instill fear of those with more traditional religious beliefs are sheer bigotry - stereotyping of the worst sort.
LOL!! Obviously I mean organized religions. I do not define things that people might agree with as a religion. ie. political "beliefs". That is not religion. My definition of a religion is a group that believes in unknowable, all powerful beings and inexplicably worships them.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 12:02 pm
rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:57 am That's quite the double standard.

There's certainly a religious element to the earth worship driving some of the "progressive" "edicts".

There's certainly a religious-cult-element to the commitment to sacrificing people in the name of climate change.

Even DEI has plenty in common with religions: it's blasphemy to question the edicts of its high priests, and there's considerable dogma involved.

These posts meant to instill fear of those with more traditional religious beliefs are sheer bigotry - stereotyping of the worst sort.
LOL!! Obviously I mean organized religions. I do not define things that people might agree with as a religion. ie. political "beliefs". That is not religion. My definition of a religion is a group that believes in unknowable, all powerful beings and inexplicably worships them.
The belief those organizing around a belief are only practicing a faith-based religion if they call it a religion is an interesting belief in and of itself, and this belief is really helpful in showing us how silly the anti-Conservative bigotry and stereotyping "because religion" truly is.
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Glacier wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 11:58 am Cool, so you're against the carbon tax... I stand corrected...
I am currently unaffected by a carbon tax. I pay them indirectly for natural gas in my building which divides out to a small amount when it gets to me. I have an EV. No carbon tax.
I see it as the same as the ever existing "sin taxes" on like nicotine-delivery products (not treatment products) and alcohol. The government of the day (Harpo by the way) decided to approach the climate issue using them.
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rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 12:07 pm The belief those organizing around a belief are only practicing a faith-based religion if they call it a religion is an interesting belief in and of itself, and this belief is really helpful in showing us how silly the anti-Conservative bigotry and stereotyping "because religion" truly is.
I "believe" in gravity. I can't taste it, not consciously aware of feeling it until I think about it, I can't see it other than things remain landed on the ground, I can't smell it, I can't hear it. But I can prove it exists. My definition of a religion can not prove anything of what they believe in.
I'll say it again...jeez why am I always a broken record...it's when those that believe in these unprovable things and that have all kinds of edicts around it or believe that that thing will somehow swoop in and save the day that to then force their beliefs and edicts on others, is what I object to.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 12:15 pm
rustled wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 12:07 pm The belief those organizing around a belief are only practicing a faith-based religion if they call it a religion is an interesting belief in and of itself, and this belief is really helpful in showing us how silly the anti-Conservative bigotry and stereotyping "because religion" truly is.
I "believe" in gravity. I can't taste it, not consciously aware of feeling it until I think about it, I can't see it other than things remain landed on the ground, I can't smell it, I can't hear it. But I can prove it exists. My definition of a religion can not prove anything of what they believe in.
That's your definition - per your beliefs.

And again, your post is showing us the bigotry and stereotyping of the anti-Conservative "because religion" mindset.

Yes, some Conservatives are practicing Christians. No, that does NOT justify fearmongering about what the BC Conservatives "might" do if they form government "because religion", particularly when we can see what the current BC NDP government is already actually doing "because social justice" or "because climate change" or because any of the other things they believe in.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Mar 27th, 2024, 12:15 pm I'll say it again...jeez why am I always a broken record...it's when those that believe in these unprovable things and that have all kinds of edicts around it or believe that that thing will somehow swoop in and save the day that to then force their beliefs and edicts on others, is what I object to.
We can apply this line of thinking to those who believe green energy initiatives will somehow "save the day" and are forcing their beliefs and edicts on others. Failure to do so shows the bigotry and hypocrisy in the anti-Conservative "because religion" mindset.
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Religion isn't just churches.

People can be religious about anything.

For some it's chruch.
Some it's sunday football
Some it's believing a tax will change the weather. (they used to sacrifice people and through this tax still are)
Some are religious about anti oil protesting
Some are religious about races.

You can find all these individuals throughout all parties. So the "no religion" hokum spouted is just more of the "every one else is a bigot while I am the real one" speech

Steven Guileault is a VERY VERY religious man. Extremist and irrational in his beliefs and actions, and should be removed. If there was a right wing individual yelling extremist things I would want them not in office too. So far though they haven't....just been falsely accused.

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