Vernon is Trashed

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Remember our childhood song?

“Thought he was a-goner,
But the very next day
The cat came back!”
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Catsumi wrote: Mar 9th, 2024, 8:11 pm Remember our childhood song?

“Thought he was a-goner,
But the very next day
The cat came back!”
At least they got it done, and left the raw ground quite rough, lumpy and bumpy.
An ankle turning adventure with unfriendly sleeping surfaces.
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dirtybiker wrote: Mar 10th, 2024, 9:30 am
Catsumi wrote: Mar 9th, 2024, 8:11 pm Remember our childhood song?

“Thought he was a-goner,
But the very next day
The cat came back!”
At least they got it done, and left the raw ground quite rough, lumpy and bumpy.
An ankle turning adventure with unfriendly sleeping surfaces.
Let’s hope it works the miracle we need to fend off the free roamers
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He was shocked to see so much “activity” in the middle of the night. Yes, Mr Sellers, the town has been turned over to the transients, miscreants, criminals, the drug-addled and thieves.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/47 ... was-stolen

Carl Sellers was shocked by the amount of street activity he saw in the dead of night in Vernon.

Sellers lives in a six-plex on Hospital Hill and at 2:30 a.m. Thursday, a neighbour told him someone had stolen his $1,500 e-bike that he just spent $300 on for repairs.

“They used bolt cutters to cut the chain,” said Sellers who jumped in his car to try and find his bike.

He did not find the bike, but he did witness a side of Vernon he didn't know existed.

“I found dozens of people. They were all over the place,” he said. “I was shocked how many there were.”

Sellers said he drove around town for 45 minutes looking for his stolen bike and was amazed at the night life he witnessed.

Many of the people he saw were pushing shopping carts loaded with items. He saw many on bicycles and, having his bike stolen a short time earlier, he questioned how they came into possession of those bicycles.

“There were lots of shopping carts, which are stolen property. Why aren't police cracking down on that?” he asked. “Why should they get a free pass? Why are we turning a blind eye?”

Castanet reached out to the Vernon North Okanagan RCMP for comment but did not receive a response at the time of publication.

Sellers said he knows of many other instances of thievery or attempted thievery in the complex where he lives.

“We get hit every month,” a frustrated Sellers said, adding that even securing stuff up does not help, which was the case with his e-bike that was chained and locked up.

“It is an every day, constant thing. It scares me to think that when I am sleeping there are people going through my back yard.”

Sellers also knows of at least one instance where a neighbour chased some thieves from the complex who were stealing bikes.

While the criminality can not be definitively blamed on a specific segment of society, when he sees numerous bikes at the local mission, Sellers said it does raise questions.

While the bikes can not be confirmed as stolen, he says the shopping carts can.

“I don't know of anywhere you can buy a shopping cart,” he said. “I have compassion for these people, but at some point compassion has to stop and enforcement has to start.”
Our once lovely and safe city is gone.
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Catsumi wrote: Apr 1st, 2024, 9:09 pm Our once lovely and safe city is gone.
Cats, it's everywhere. There is not a single city in North America nowadays without tent cities. However, what I noticed, at least here in Penticton, there are no tents on Indian land (across the channel). And, you know why? Because Indians kick them out in no time flat, without anyone accusing them of "human rights" violations, or "racism".
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BC Landlord wrote: Apr 5th, 2024, 3:42 pm
Catsumi wrote: Apr 1st, 2024, 9:09 pm Our once lovely and safe city is gone.
Cats, it's everywhere. There is not a single city in North America nowadays without tent cities. However, what I noticed, at least here in Penticton, there are no tents on Indian land (across the channel). And, you know why? Because Indians kick them out in no time flat, without anyone accusing them of "human rights" violations, or "racism".
You have a point that I never considered.

On second thought, don’t the Natives claim all of BC?

I wonder if we could work out a deal with them for “services rendered?”
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NO it's not. It is no worse than any other city in Canada at this point in history. We make it what it is, you see what you want to see. I see this ....

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/48 ... ned#481094

And this:
https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/48 ... non#480930
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Goody for you. Yes, there are still some wonderful things left in Vernon to admire, and I do.

However, the way it was a decade ago compared to today, one with open eyes can readily see the degeneration. We don’t need to compare between cities, just compare between time lines, as in then vs now

I can’t believe you’ve not noticed the change as in this scenario, below

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/47 ... oblem-site
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Catsumi wrote: Apr 9th, 2024, 9:16 pm Goody for you. Yes, there are still some wonderful things left in Vernon to admire, and I do.

However, the way it was a decade ago compared to today, one with open eyes can readily see the degeneration. We don’t need to compare between cities, just compare between time lines, as in then vs now

I can’t believe you’ve not noticed the change as in this scenario, below

https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/47 ... oblem-site
Moot point... the way every city was 10 years ago was way different. Because I chose to see the positive and the good in people and places. Maybe if we had more of that, we would have less of what you see and speak to.
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Some choose to look past unnecessary eyesores, ignore it and let it go

Some such as myself have pointed it out and thereby got some cleanups done.

If we don’t complain the problem grows like we see in LA, Seattle and Portland.

Civic pride.
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Did you ever think maybe our society has simple evolved to the state of other countries where slums and ghettos exist?

And with the government starting to provide free or subsidized housing, the word "projects" springs to mind.

Been to Detroit, Chicago or any city in the US that provided this type of housing back in the 60s?

But having fun loving, free thinking, liberal minded dreamers in charge of hardcore street chaos is a formula for failure.

Want another solution from the 60s that worked? Remote work camps where they cut and sold firewood, raised much of their own food, learned carpentry, social, work ethic skills. The Christian Valley had one. Build some now and forget the $20,000 garden sheds.
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How many of these camps do you think would have to be built to handle the numbers of these night people that we see? And will any of these people in these work camps escape? And what would they do to the first house they came across?

How about the death penalty for drug dealers? I consider enslaving a person to drug addiction at least as bad as murder. The lash for first offence and then the death penalty after that.
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bob vernon wrote: May 6th, 2024, 9:28 pm
How about the death penalty for drug dealers? I consider enslaving a person to drug addiction at least as bad as murder. The lash for first offence and then the death penalty after that.
This is actually a really good idea.
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Glacier wrote: May 8th, 2024, 11:57 am
bob vernon wrote: May 6th, 2024, 9:28 pm
How about the death penalty for drug dealers? I consider enslaving a person to drug addiction at least as bad as murder. The lash for first offence and then the death penalty after that.
This is actually a really good idea.
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Glacier wrote: May 8th, 2024, 11:57 am
bob vernon wrote: May 6th, 2024, 9:28 pm
How about the death penalty for drug dealers? I consider enslaving a person to drug addiction at least as bad as murder. The lash for first offence and then the death penalty after that.
This is actually a really good idea.
Excellent, will it include NDP and Liberal politicians?

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