Opening Ceremony is a waste of time

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WTHWYT wrote:I would give Ceremony 6.5 out of 10. The cauldon lighting 3 out of 10. Out of all cauldron lighting I have seen this far the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSA9xUUXj6E

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Cateyes wrote: I wanted to see a more authentic Indian experience.


For an authentic "Indian" experience, go to India. I was waiting for them to re-enact the part where they put all the First Nations peoples on to reservations and then abducted their children from the villages and placed them in residential schools.


I might pay $1000 per ticket to see that.
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WTHWYT wrote:Out of all cauldron lighting I have seen this far the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSA9xUUXj6E


That is uber cool.
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By the way.

The whole French language first, English language second. Seems to me it has nothing to do with Canada, that's a standard protocol since official languages of IOC are French and English. They do announcements in the same order in all countries. That's my guess, based on watching few Opening Ceremonies on Youtube from US, Australia, and Japan.
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steven lloyd wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote: 'First Nations people', as a term, however, is pure political propaganda with only the most flimsy basis in either anthropology or language. I can only assume that a person of your education is aware of that and just don't mind being either a 'useful idiot' for the propagandists or one of the propagandists yourself.


Their presence and culture here goes back far enough in history and anthropology (tens of thousands of years) to make the term "First Nations" quite useful - even for us "idiots". If you prefer we could use the terms "native", "aboriginal" or “indigenous people”. Any of those would be preferable to perpetuating the ignorance you seem to want to defend.

Sorry, but the ignorance runs the other way. Even the term 'Canadian' is a misnomer, of little or no relevance to this nation today, except for historical purposes, but I notice that doesn't stop you from using it.

If the term First Nations was useful, I would accept it. Unfortunately, it's not and that has nothing to do with the passage of time. It violates conventional historical and anthropological definitions that are useful in understanding the cultural forms that human societies take and the processes of development they go through. It is a purely political device, used for political reasons and definitely not to elucidate the cultural legacy or ongoing cultural forms of native peoples. Really, I didn't expect you to take such an anti-intellectual stance, but I guess everyone has their blind spots.

BTW, the presence of people in the western hemisphere is likely less than 20,000 years, invalidating your assertion to the contrary.
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Homeownertoo wrote: Sorry, but the ignorance runs the other way. Even the term 'Canadian' is a misnomer, of little or no relevance to this nation today, except for historical purposes, but I notice that doesn't stop you from using it.

You're right of course homey. maybe we should all just start calling ourselves "those people who live just north of United States" - or is that inaccurate as well ?

Homeownertoo wrote: Really, I didn't expect you to take such an anti-intellectual stance, but I guess everyone has their blind spots.

I'm just not feeling as pompous as you today homey (in fact, thankfully, I never feel that pompous).
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Homeownertoo wrote:Sorry, but the ignorance runs the other way. Even the term 'Canadian' is a misnomer, of little or no relevance to this nation today, except for historical purposes, but I notice that doesn't stop you from using it.

If the term First Nations was useful, I would accept it. Unfortunately, it's not and that has nothing to do with the passage of time. It violates conventional historical and anthropological definitions that are useful in understanding the cultural forms that human societies take and the processes of development they go through. It is a purely political device, used for political reasons and definitely not to elucidate the cultural legacy or ongoing cultural forms of native peoples. Really, I didn't expect you to take such an anti-intellectual stance, but I guess everyone has their blind spots.

BTW, the presence of people in the western hemisphere is likely less than 20,000 years, invalidating your assertion to the contrary.


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You guys are getting way off topic here. Can we please talk about how sweaty Wayne was and how of the flames whatchamacallit things didn't go up.
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As with most if not all thread on Castanet it's gone :offtopic: Oh well, it coming up to Hockey time I am :runforlife:
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steven lloyd wrote:I'm just not feeling as pompous as you today homey (in fact, thankfully, I never feel that pompous).


..but pompous nonetheless.






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I thought all the visuals were spectacular.
The choice of music with all Canada has to offer was pretty sad. The fiddlers section was good, kd lang's voice is incredible but the rest I thought was poor. Both Sides Now with Peter Pan?? Give me a break.
Liked the choices of flag and torch bearers.
Loved the First Nations dancers but when did neon become part of the traditional dress?
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eyepop wrote:
steven lloyd wrote:I'm just not feeling as pompous as you today homey (in fact, thankfully, I never feel that pompous).

..but pompous nonetheless.
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Captain Awesome wrote: Can we please talk about how sweaty Wayne was ...

I thought he was just getting rained on (only saw the news spot).
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steven lloyd wrote:I thought he was just getting rained on (only saw the news spot).


I was just humoring other peoples pity complaints about Olympics.
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Loved the First Nations dancers but when did neon become part of the traditional dress?

I had the exact same thought....neon? :dyinglaughing:
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