The direct result of the NDP's $15 minimum wage proposal

[hobbyguy]

I have no problem with bringing the minimum wage up to $15/hr.

But if the NDP do it their loony way, it won't do any good. The NDP so called platform in combination with a promise to balance the budget (ya, I remember, fudget budget and all that) would result in more than doubling the provincial income tax, so $15/hr would be the same as $12/hr today. Assuming of course there ARE any jobs to be had after the NDP mess things up again.

So the NDP promise of $15/hr means the usual from them - nothing, nada, zero.

[lasnomadas]

If history is any indication, if the BC Libs win this election, by the time they get around to raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, the rest of the country will be paying $20 an hour.

[Urban Cowboy]

Perhaps so, perhaps not, but what we can be certain of, is that the NDP still won't have a viable fully costed out platform.

[What_the]

Since you're here, what level of integrity would you expect from u your employees if you paid them less than what they needed to make it worthwhile? They represent you after all

Why would i pay them less that what would be fair to make it worthwhile? Like I stated before - underpaying creates its own problems and expenses (low moral, high turn over, wasted $$$ for repeated training)

I think all companies should pay fairly - it is the employees who enter into the agreed upon employment contract. Supply and demand. The supply of those willing to work for insulting wages needs to dry up if you expect the market to organically increase starting wages.

I have never started any employee at min wage and give regular periodic increases to those worth keeping and I cut the dead weight as soon as it is apparent. Under the new proposal I would have to pay the dead weight more than what i currently pay some of my new staff after 2 or 3 wage increases. This model will not work for my business. We are a skeleton crew for the most part so I cannot afford to increase everyones wages to par with the min wage increase. Either my service charges go up or I strip it down to a 1 man show and have 6-8 people go back into the job search pool.

Pretty depressing election as i despise the Liberals and the NDP is definitely not working for my type of business........ green??? really???

To be clear Cornelius, I'm not singling you out, I'm engaging and using an employer, for this thread, who is doing things right, an employer who is fair and respects those representing his brand.
I'm asking you specifically because yay or nay Sayers don't have the experience you do; or the ethics.... Or the fore sight of what paying a "living wage", a decent wage, what a man/woman is worth; to support families for the basics. Why else do we work but to feed and house our families.

I know that you feel responsible for your employees to a certain extent. I know that when one
of them says, "I need to go to the dentist during working hours", you'd say yes.

Do others think nameless faceless corporations care about such things? When in an office managing numbers people disappear, managers bonus depends on other's misfortune, i.e. layoffs.
You know it. I know it. Other keyboard warriors appear not at times. "Conservatives"it seems just give a Shiite about numbers and what they believe the world should be in their image.
Free markets and capitalism run amok without societal AKA governmental control to reign it in. I shouldn't have to remind others what unregulated economies can do.

2008 recession and un reigned corporate speculation and dictation anyone?

I liked your original post and it spoke of the real meat of the matter.

Fair wages for a fair days work. Whatever that may be.
Legislation not needed.

[The Green Barbarian]

I don't get it. .

and I don't get your posts either. Let's just agree to disagree.

[What_the]

If someone is delivering pizza in a Mercedes, it's either because it has severe Collison damage, over 300k, 20 years old or mommy and daddy bought it.

Sorry man, a ridiculous example of free market prosperity.

[What_the]

Or somebody got a golden deal on a senior's car that whom can no longer regulatory drive.

[What_the]

It's funny, rightists portraying leftists as liars and/or exaggerates and bending the truth.

[What_the]

This whole thing is such a tempest in a teapot.

Who stays at minimum wage? No one that I know of, unless they keep starting over somewhere else.

FTR, my mentally disabled family member started at minimum wage in a big box store years ago, and has had regular raises ever since. So I have to ask, if a mentally disabled person isn't stuck at minimum wage, why is anyone else?

Is this one of those issues on which people who pride themselves on being "socially aware" are trying to "educate" those of us who actually deal every day with precisely the issues these "socially aware" folk are trying to "shame" us about?

Why? Because regulation dictated that that able bodied family member could not be discriminated against and couldn't be dismissed without cause. Which it appears that able bodied person is capable of doing the job. Unless of course he/she isn't, then it stands to reason that the company has a token to say they are politically correct. Further more they have a marketable "in" to say they "care" ... from a corporate board POV looks good in the eyes of the public and is sellable the masses. Why else do corporations donate when at the same breath lay people off?

It's good for the bottom line.

[Drip_Torch]

Hey can anyone offer an opinion on this thread?

If so, I'd like to chime in and offer mine...

At almost 7 views per post - this thread is getting far more attention than it deserves.

[JollyGreenBully]

Okay, now I think you're just being intentionally silly. If my mentally disabled family member who is working in retail has been paid well over minimum wage for years, I very much doubt there's even the remotest possibility "80-90%" of people working in retail stores are being paid minimum wage.

Nope, not being intentionally silly.

Why exactly do you keep selling your disabled family member short and acting as though just because he / she has accomplished something that everyone can? The mentally challenged people I know make up for their deficits in other ways like having great emotional intelligence or superb social skills. I don't doubt some employer found value in this person, but it has nothing to do with others making minimum wage - mentally handicapped or not.

[JollyGreenBully]

and I don't get your posts either. Let's just agree to disagree.

Agree to disagree about what exactly? I asked a question.

[Queen K]

The problem is that people like me "get" both of you and wonder who's gonna prevail on this topic. You two are from such diametrically different places in life. You both just are and in every possible way. Reading you both is like switching novels every few minutes. Or channels. Maybe this should have been a PM but it's my thoughts on both of you.

[Even Steven]

At almost 7 views per post - this thread is getting far more attention than it deserves.

It's one of these topics that keeps showing up regularly, both sides of the argument are presented, insults are thrown, emotions are felt, and then we move on to something else to discuss - like new type of hot dog, or complaining about Alberta drivers.

Pretty sure it's the same people are always arguing about it.

[krocky]

Not to worry, this minimum wage thing will take care of itself, eventually.. Try hiring a mellennial at minimum wage, LOL, most of them want $20.00/ hr just for showing up.. I would assume it is mostly students living 6 to a condo and semi-retired seniors who are "willing" or able to work for below poverty wages such as the BC minimum.

Since we don't have a bunch of illegal immigrants to take these jobs (yet) the problem will eventually take care of its self it will just take longer with the Liberals in power because they will need to give themselves "another" hefty raise first, should they win, as a reward for their arrogance... After all, we all know that a Liberal politician has far more value as a human being than a low life minimum wage earner. How do we know this, because Christy Clark and the BC Liberal lap dogs tell us so every day...