All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2

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Trudeau's election run, in a nutshell.....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1448097521331486726
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^^^^^. Hahaha.

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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 12:28 pmGet a grip pal they were just as :cuss: as JT. Your only argument is throwing past PM's into the mix. You cant change the history of politics and as far as I'm concerned it has been a corrupt system from the beginning.

I support the guys who have integrity, focus on Canadians first, and keep their promises. Should the Cons start down the same road as JT I would feel the same. I don't support liars or those who stand up for them.

For you to accept these downfalls for the sake of a political party goes to show how stupid people really are.
People are no more stupid than anyone. I for 1 am realistic. There is a status quo. And it will never go away. So I accept the things I don't control - and vote for the party and leader that I prefer. Which is Liberal. JT didn't promise to fix how things are or the status quo. And neither did Otool. People who lament all the time and voting back and forth or to get rid of the present guy as a knee-jerk reaction has solved nothing. So why bash their heads on the wall?
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I remember, early on in the pandemic, being upset at how the Trudeau Governments misplaced faith in a failed partnership with a Chinese vaccine manufacturer, resulted in delays in Canadians receiving the much needed vaccines. Delays which inevitably cost many Canadian lives.

At the time, Liberal partisans on these forums claimed it simply wasn’t true. But an investigation by the Fifth Estate has now proven that it was indeed true.
Failed deal with China delayed made-in-Canada COVID-19 vaccine plans.

Officials wasted months, spent millions on a lab that never produced a single shot
The NRC also acknowledged that the failure of the CanSino deal forced it to scrap its original clinical trial manufacturing plans.

"I think there's no doubt it has set us back years," Davies said. "When you're in a global pandemic, that is deadly, that costs lives."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino- ... -1.6208241

Read the entire article, and then decide whether or not you think there is Canadian blood on Trudeau’s hands.
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[quote=Merry post_id=2901499 time=1634228187 user_id=7745
At the time, Liberal partisans on these forums claimed it simply wasn’t true. But an investigation by the Fifth Estate has now proven that it was indeed true.


Fifth Estate is CBC, wonder how this is going to go over with Rosemary Barton being the Trudeau acolyte she is.
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What really bothers our friends on the right (who recently lost their third election with their third leader) is how successful Trudeau was in procuring vaccines from many sources, rather than putting all of our eggs in one basket.

What really bothers our friends on the right is Trudeau beat the world and got Canadians vaccinated fastest. We're far ahead of the Americans, a nation that manufactures vaccine.

What really bothers our friends on the right is Trudeau's supports for Canadians resulted in an economy that has bounced back and in September created ten times as many jobs as the US per capita.

What really bothers our friends on the right is Trudeau's management resulted in one of the world's lowest COVID death rates--one third that of the US and UK (nations with right wing governments).

What really bothers our friends on the right is under Trudeau not enough Canadians lost their houses, their livelihoods and their lives.

If anyone has blood on their hands, it's our friends on the right.
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Merry wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 9:16 am
Read the entire article, and then decide whether or not you think there is Canadian blood on Trudeau’s hands.
Of course there is blood on Justin's hands. He's so in bed with the Chinese commies it's ridiculous.
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crookedmember wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 11:23 am What really bothers our friends on the right (who recently lost their third election with their third leader) is how successful Trudeau was in procuring vaccines from many sources, rather than putting all of our eggs in one basket.
Actually, it bothers everyone, on the Left and Right, that that idiot and his band of children screwed up so bad in procuring vaccines, because of their love affair with Chinese communism. It's disgusting actually. Justin did a terrible job, and was rewarded with his second straight election loss. He's a failure. And a pretty horrible person to boot.
If anyone has blood on their hands, it's our friends on the right.
Unless Justin is suddenly considered "right", then yes, otherwise this is pure demagoguery.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 11:56 am
Merry wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 9:16 am
Read the entire article, and then decide whether or not you think there is Canadian blood on Trudeau’s hands.
Of course there is blood on Justin's hands. He's so in bed with the Chinese commies it's ridiculous.
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Actually Canada has a history of joint vaccine development with Cansino going back Ebola.

I don't think Trudeau is in bed with the Chinese, but someone's hero obviously was. Someone's hero sold us out.


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crookedmember wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 12:39 pm

I don't think Trudeau is in bed with the Chinese,
Of course he is. Like wow!!!
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 11:56 am
Merry wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 9:16 am
Read the entire article, and then decide whether or not you think there is Canadian blood on Trudeau’s hands.
Of course there is blood on Justin's hands. He's so in bed with the Chinese commies it's ridiculous.

On this morning’s show of The Current, (second segment) Matt Galloway host, that displays the abysmal failure of the Lieberal government’s dealings with the Chinese in producing a Covid vaccine. It is embarrassing to listen to how we were taken to the cleaners by the Chinese and the cover-up of that failure by the Libs.

I couldn’t link it, maybe someone else can?
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Actually, the three-time-loser-Conservatives are wrong again. Why am I not surprised? The Chinese received nothing.

The Canadian government got out of paying a Chinese vaccine producer for their research partnership that China blocked because the company’s COVID vaccines never reached Canada, according to the contract for the deal that was recently released through an access-to-information request.

In spring of 2020, the federal government, through the National Research Council (NRC), struck an agreement with CanSino, a Chinese vaccine developer. The deal paved the way for CanSino and the NRC to run trials of CanSino’s COVID vaccine in Canada. At the time, CanSino’s vaccine was considered one of the most promising candidates out of the more than 200 COVID vaccines in development in the world. If CanSino’s vaccine was proven safe and effective, the agreement would have allowed the NRC to manufacture doses for use in Canada. Just before the CanSino deal was announced, the government steered $44 million to the NRC to upgrade its Montreal site to ensure it was up to the task of manufacturing vaccine doses made by companies like CanSino.

The agreement would have represented the first through which Canada secured a supply of COVID vaccines, coming months before Ottawa landed supply deals with other companies like Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca.
Despite the failed deal, a silver lining for the government has been that it hasn’t had to pay CanSino anything.

“The company and government in question (China’s) did not receive any funding from the Government of Canada,” former Innovation, Science and Indusry minister Navdeep Bains said in the House of Commons last October.

“Neither CanSino nor the Chinese government received any funding from the Government of Canada (including the NRC) for this collaboration,” said documents tabled in the House of Commons by the NRC in January.
https://ipolitics.ca/2021/06/30/ottawa- ... -the-deal/


Now, let's contrast this with the no-strings deals the former PM made with the US automakers that cost taxpayers billions. Billions taxpayers will never see again.


Conservatives. On the wrong side of every issue. And just plain wrong about everything else. Sad.
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crookedmember wrote: Oct 15th, 2021, 8:12 am Actually, the three-time-loser-Conservatives are wrong again. Why am I not surprised? The Chinese received nothing.

The Canadian government got out of paying a Chinese vaccine producer for their research partnership that China blocked because the company’s COVID vaccines never reached Canada, according to the contract for the deal that was recently released through an access-to-information request.

In spring of 2020, the federal government, through the National Research Council (NRC), struck an agreement with CanSino, a Chinese vaccine developer. The deal paved the way for CanSino and the NRC to run trials of CanSino’s COVID vaccine in Canada. At the time, CanSino’s vaccine was considered one of the most promising candidates out of the more than 200 COVID vaccines in development in the world. If CanSino’s vaccine was proven safe and effective, the agreement would have allowed the NRC to manufacture doses for use in Canada. Just before the CanSino deal was announced, the government steered $44 million to the NRC to upgrade its Montreal site to ensure it was up to the task of manufacturing vaccine doses made by companies like CanSino.

The agreement would have represented the first through which Canada secured a supply of COVID vaccines, coming months before Ottawa landed supply deals with other companies like Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca.
Despite the failed deal, a silver lining for the government has been that it hasn’t had to pay CanSino anything.

“The company and government in question (China’s) did not receive any funding from the Government of Canada,” former Innovation, Science and Indusry minister Navdeep Bains said in the House of Commons last October.

“Neither CanSino nor the Chinese government received any funding from the Government of Canada (including the NRC) for this collaboration,” said documents tabled in the House of Commons by the NRC in January.
https://ipolitics.ca/2021/06/30/ottawa- ... -the-deal/


Now, let's contrast this with the no-strings deals the former PM made with the US automakers that cost taxpayers billions. Billions taxpayers will never see again.


Conservatives. On the wrong side of every issue. And just plain wrong about everything else. Sad.
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 15th, 2021, 9:13 am
Liberals. Self pretentious finger-pointers with zero accountability. Disgusting
Liberals. On the wrong side of every issue. And just plain wrong about everything else. Sad. And such engagers in demagoguery as well.
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