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Should we stop the taxpayers' bailout of CBC?

Yes, they need to make it on their own
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No, I want more coverage of Trudeau's socks
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 9:31 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 8:38 am The old models of monitoring the success and market penetration of players in the field are no longer valid.
In other words, if the results show that Justin Trudeau is a complete idiot for dumping our cash into the useless CBC, it's time to change how we measure success so that Justin Trudeau looks like a fricken hero.

Trudeau's responsibility for wasting our money sticks to him like white on Rice, Bill it back to him and see how quickly he changes his tune.
You didn't read what I wrote. CBC isn't just a broadcaster, they are the primary producer of Canadian content that employs a trainload of people. That is something that is separately important to Canada.

All of the "broadcasters" in Canada are transitioning to streaming. For that to work in the long run you need content. That's why Bell bought CTV in the first place. (And of course, because CTV is now part of BGM, we don't know their profit/loss situation as a standalone.)

Even "Shaw Cable" has shifted to to what is in essence a streaming service.

The entire industry is shifting dramatically as the old models fade to black. CTV is buying US content, not producing much of its own.

GEM, Stack and other Canadian streaming services are just in their infancy in Canada.

There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am You didn't read what I wrote.
That would be a complete waste of my time.
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am

There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
I'm all for supporting Canadian content. I'm not for supporting Communist Canadian content. Left-wing garbage that no one wants to see, even the far Lefties. If we all have to support this network, then truly produce content for everyone to enjoy, not just dimwits on the Far Left.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:52 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am You didn't read what I wrote.
That would be a complete waste of my time.
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:12 am So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
CBC doesn't run 24/7 fear mongering, which die hard conservatives need as it's how they form their identities. You can bet if CBC ran garbage like Alex Jones all day the same die hard conservatives would watch it day and night. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:52 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
What's left in Canada that's truly Canadian?
How much does it cost us personally?
20 cents per month from our taxes.
CBC has been around since 1936.
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Pappywinkle wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 9:33 am The CBC is awesome and worth every penny, and more! And while die hard conservatives will froth at the mouth because CBC isn't just another right wing echo chamber, most Canadians value media that isn't run by corporate interests - especially right wing interests that don't reflect Canadian values.
I think most Canadians would prefer an unbiased media that reported on facts alone and left the politics for the politicians. Anyone who thinks that a media outlet that is funded by one political party is reporting the truth is about as dense as they get. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you lean on, the taxpayers are flipping the bill and should be seeing factual information not sensationalized reports that support a particular party.
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:34 am I think most Canadians would prefer an unbiased media that reported on facts alone and left the politics for the politicians. Anyone who thinks that a media outlet that is funded by one political party is reporting the truth is about as dense as they get. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you lean on, the taxpayers are flipping the bill and should be seeing factual information not sensationalized reports that support a particular party.
The CBC has been funded by parties of all political stripes for decades and their reporting simply reflects the values of Canadians. Thankfully the CBC isn't just another American owned media that constantly reports right fear/shock stories, though for some reason some think Canada needs yet another one of those to scare people about immigrants and spread conspiracies about Castro.
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The poll for this thread is pretty hilarious, because the option 'i want more coverage of Trudeau's socks' is exactly what corporate right wing media likes to focus on, and what it's readers like to gobble up. So those votes are in all likelihood right wingers who actually do want more coverage of Trudeau's socks. [icon_lol2.gif]
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:34 am
I think most Canadians would prefer an unbiased media that reported on facts alone and left the politics for the politicians. Anyone who thinks that a media outlet that is funded by one political party is reporting the truth is about as dense as they get. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you lean on, the taxpayers are flipping the bill and should be seeing factual information not sensationalized reports that support a particular party.
Yes that's just it. While I get that we all want something "Canadian", what most Canadians don't want is biased Left-wing garbage, especially if they want to broadcast that nonsense and expect taxpayer cash to support it.
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:34 am I think most Canadians would prefer an unbiased media that reported on facts alone and left the politics for the politicians. Anyone who thinks that a media outlet that is funded by one political party is reporting the truth is about as dense as they get. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you lean on, the taxpayers are flipping the bill and should be seeing factual information not sensationalized reports that support a particular party.
The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 12:51 pm Yes that's just it. While I get that we all want something "Canadian", what most Canadians don't want is biased Left-wing garbage, especially if they want to broadcast that nonsense and expect taxpayer cash to support it.
Pappywinkle wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:51 am The CBC has been funded by parties of all political stripes for decades and their reporting simply reflects the values of Canadians. Thankfully the CBC isn't just another American owned media that constantly reports right fear/shock stories, though for some reason some think Canada needs yet another one of those to scare people about immigrants and spread conspiracies about Castro.

It doesn't matter left or right because both parties are guilty of using the media to support their beliefs. I can tell you both are on opposing teams so may I suggest you put aside your political beliefs for a moment and understand the bigger picture here? Truthful, factual and unbiased media that leaves politics for the politicians is what I would agree to spend my tax dollars on, you should too.
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Pappywinkle wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:15 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:12 am So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
CBC doesn't run 24/7 fear mongering, which die hard conservatives need as it's how they form their identities. You can bet if CBC ran garbage like Alex Jones all day the same die hard conservatives would watch it day and night. [icon_lol2.gif]
Have you tried to listen to CBC radio in the last 24 months??? All they do is yelp FEAR of covid, FEAR of unvaxxed, then on to mandated vaccinations, then back to next new variant of covid. Honestly, there is no end to it. No wonder there are peeps living in total fear of their neighbours, friends and general public.

Then mix into the above, praise for liberal malfeasance and denigration to any opposition.

Yeah, right. CBC doesn’t fearmonger. In a pig’s eye.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:12 am Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
Your hero Justin Trudeau says there's no such thing.


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Catsumi wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 6:24 pm

Yeah, right. CBC doesn’t fearmonger. In a pig’s eye.
You are right Cats, the CBC definitely sucks, a lot. But they are no different than every other government-subsidized media everywhere. The BBC, the ABC in Australia, NPR in the US - all run by the idiot Left, pumping out Leftist garbage by the bucket load. Why is that? Is it because these government-subsidized media outlets only attract the worst and the dimmest? Why are these media sources controlled by such utter and complete fools?
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