Alberta

[liisgo]

“However, the government continues to face strong disapproval on issues tied to everyday affordability and social well-being, including health care, housing affordability, homelessness, poverty, and the opioid crisis. This uneven performance suggests that electoral support does not necessarily translate into broad satisfaction with government action.

Seems that the conservative government of Alberta has exactly the same problems as the federal government in Ottawa. Something tells me that the separation movements have no solutions for those problems.

Big difference, we have clearly seen from even as far back as 2015 the rapid descent of all vital items you mention above and it was never a concern to a single left political supporter here. Take a good look at the record speed at which our own nations failure was taking place over the last 10 yrs and try to put reason to why so many here ignored it, but post todays against Alberta as if there is some actual value to it.
Same goes for the massive failings in BC to your items.
So, whats with the behavior that we see so clearly here? Why are these items of zero concern to some and then all of a sudden they pretend they are.
Ever single item you list plus a dozen more have failed far faster and more than almost every single of nation in the OECD.
And yet, people state Alberta needs to address issues.

[T Bear]

“However, the government continues to face strong disapproval on issues tied to everyday affordability and social well-being, including health care, housing affordability, homelessness, poverty, and the opioid crisis. This uneven performance suggests that electoral support does not necessarily translate into broad satisfaction with government action.

Seems that the conservative government of Alberta has exactly the same problems as the federal government in Ottawa. Something tells me that the separation movements have no solutions for those problems.

Big difference, we have clearly seen from even as far back as 2015 the rapid descent of all vital items you mention above and it was never a concern to a single left political supporter here. Take a good look at the record speed at which our own nations failure was taking place over the last 10 yrs and try to put reason to why so many here ignored it, but post todays against Alberta as if there is some actual value to it.
Same goes for the massive failings in BC to your items.
So, whats with the behavior that we see so clearly here? Why are these items of zero concern to some and then all of a sudden they pretend they are.
Ever single item you list plus a dozen more have failed far faster and more than almost every single of nation in the OECD.
And yet, people state Alberta needs to address issues.

Try scrolling through this thread and, "Social Concerns,"

viewforum.php?f=31

[liisgo]

Big difference, we have clearly seen from even as far back as 2015 the rapid descent of all vital items you mention above and it was never a concern to a single left political supporter here. Take a good look at the record speed at which our own nations failure was taking place over the last 10 yrs and try to put reason to why so many here ignored it, but post todays against Alberta as if there is some actual value to it.
Same goes for the massive failings in BC to your items.
So, whats with the behavior that we see so clearly here? Why are these items of zero concern to some and then all of a sudden they pretend they are.
Ever single item you list plus a dozen more have failed far faster and more than almost every single of nation in the OECD.
And yet, people state Alberta needs to address issues.

Try scrolling through this thread and, "Social Concerns,"

viewforum.php?f=31

Looking for what? Liberals showing an endless supply of post's clearly illustrating their concerns for how their government was dealing with drug growth, inflation, health care, immigration and housing related failures.
Not gonna be found. The point is, those very same pretending Alberta has issue's that all of a sudden are to be important are the ones that clearly ignored the extreme downward spiral of all these concerns period.
When related to their governments in BC or federally.
People attacking Albertas current government are not doing so because of concerns with issue's for citizens, they are doing so for concerns of their politics'.

[T Bear]

Try scrolling through this thread and, "Social Concerns,"

viewforum.php?f=31

Looking for what? Liberals showing an endless supply of post's clearly illustrating their concerns for how their government was dealing with drug growth, inflation, health care, immigration and housing related failures.
Not gonna be found. The point is, those very same pretending Alberta has issue's that all of a sudden are to be important are the ones that clearly ignored the extreme downward spiral of all these concerns period.
When related to their governments in BC or federally.
People attacking Albertas current government are not doing so because of concerns with issue's for citizens, they are doing so for concerns of their politics'.

1. Looking for a single left poliitcal supporter here who has concerns for the issues listed above.

2. And their politics is?

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Looking for what? Liberals showing an endless supply of post's clearly illustrating their concerns for how their government was dealing with drug growth, inflation, health care, immigration and housing related failures.
Not gonna be found. The point is, those very same pretending Alberta has issue's that all of a sudden are to be important are the ones that clearly ignored the extreme downward spiral of all these concerns period.
When related to their governments in BC or federally.
People attacking Albertas current government are not doing so because of concerns with issue's for citizens, they are doing so for concerns of their politics'.

The leftist BC Government tried decriminalizing hard drugs and now - realizing their mistake - they're reversing that.

By contrast, the Alberta Government went in the opposite direction by pulling funding from failed social programs that were meant to positively address the drug problem.

The Alberta Government is trying to exercise its sovereignty by putting restrictions on immigrants who choose Alberta as their home.

The Alberta Government, in recognizing the failures of their healthcare system, has abandoned the status quo in search of ways to increase efficiency. They've looked to models outside of Canada to guide them in this endeavour.

Calgary and Edmonton are leading the nation in housing starts and have exceeded the requirements laid out by the Federal Housing Accelerator Fund.

Of course, all of this ties into immigration. So if Alberta can get immigration under control, that will decrease the burden on healthcare, education, housing, etc.

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[T Bear]

Looking for what? Liberals showing an endless supply of post's clearly illustrating their concerns for how their government was dealing with drug growth, inflation, health care, immigration and housing related failures.
Not gonna be found. The point is, those very same pretending Alberta has issue's that all of a sudden are to be important are the ones that clearly ignored the extreme downward spiral of all these concerns period.
When related to their governments in BC or federally.
People attacking Albertas current government are not doing so because of concerns with issue's for citizens, they are doing so for concerns of their politics'.

The leftist BC Government tried decriminalizing hard drugs and now - realizing their mistake - they're reversing that.

By contrast, the Alberta Government went in the opposite direction by pulling funding from failed social programs that were meant to positively address the drug problem.

The Alberta Government is trying to exercise its sovereignty by putting restrictions on immigrants who choose Alberta as their home.

The Alberta Government, in recognizing the failures of their healthcare system, has abandoned the status quo in search of ways to increase efficiency. They've looked to models outside of Canada to guide them in this endeavour.

Calgary and Edmonton are leading the nation in housing starts and have exceeded the requirements laid out by the Federal Housing Accelerator Fund.

Of course, all of this ties into immigration. So if Alberta can get immigration under control, that will decrease the burden on healthcare, education, housing, etc.

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What would the restrictions on immigrants be in comparison to BC?

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What would the restrictions on immigrants be in comparison to BC?

The Alberta Government wants to strengthen the requirements placed on immigrants who want access to social programs. It's part of the Alberta Next panel.

Years ago, immigrants had to be sponsored when seeking citizenship, meaning they wouldn't be a burden to social programs, they wouldn't rely on Canadian taxpayers to fund their existance. That seems reasonable.

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[T Bear]

What would the restrictions on immigrants be in comparison to BC?

The Alberta Government wants to strengthen the requirements placed on immigrants who want access to social programs. It's part of the Alberta Next panel.

Years ago, immigrants had to be sponsored when seeking citizenship, meaning they wouldn't be a burden to social programs, they wouldn't rely on Canadian taxpayers to fund their existance. That seems reasonable.

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That didn't answer my question. But Alberta immigrants wouldn't have to be sponsored?

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The Alberta Government is trying to exercise its sovereignty by putting restrictions on immigrants who choose Alberta as their home.
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Of course, all of this ties into immigration. So if Alberta can get immigration under control, that will decrease the burden on healthcare, education, housing, etc.

What would the restrictions on immigrants be in comparison to BC?

The Alberta Government wants to strengthen the requirements placed on immigrants who want access to social programs. It's part of the Alberta Next panel.

That didn't answer my question.

You'll find out if/when it happens.

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[Kodidad]

So, if Alberta separates, would those that decide to stay with Canada and move from Alberta to a Canadian province be considered immigrants? Then for all the reasons stated previous, why should we as Canadians support Alberta immigrants?

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So, if Alberta separates, would those that decide to stay with Canada and move from Alberta to a Canadian province be considered immigrants? Then for all the reasons stated previous, why should we as Canadians support Alberta immigrants?

Are other premiers taking steps to make this happen? If not, maybe they should. Wouldn't hurt to have the legislation in their back pocket, yeah?

Wouldn't it be ironic if those who argue against this idea then follow suit. Wouldn't be the first time Smith leads the nation with her forward thinking. Wouldn't be the first time liberal types do an about-face on a topic simply because "their side" gave them permission ...if not instruction... to change the way they think.

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[T Bear]

Nervous Nellies?

Alberta Separatists Ramp Up Efforts to Leave Canada After Trump Meeting

By Alex Kimani - Feb 13, 2026, 4:00 PM CST

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gene ... eting.html


Separatists aim to collect 177,000 signatures to trigger a 2026 referendum, citing frustration over federal energy, environmental and fiscal policies.

Alberta controls roughly 97% of Canada’s oil reserves, but independence would leave it landlocked and outside existing trade frameworks.

Economic risks include debt assumption, capital flight, trade renegotiations and potential energy sector instability.
Canada

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By Alex Kimani for Oilprice.com

[T Bear]

Danielle's presser is supposed to be coming along today.

But first,



And,

Alberta premier’s address flags upcoming referendum on immigration,

February 19

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7098519

Video Duration13:01

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s address to the province focused on a budget deficit, which she linked to low oil prices and federal immigration policies. During the address, she also announced a referendum will be held Oct. 19, posing questions around immigration and Canadian constitution amendments.

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In her press conference, Danielle Smith says that Alberta has 500,000 more people with Alberta Health Care numbers than there are residents in Alberta. That's why the Province is linking Health Care numbers to drivers licences.

She's making changes to limit the strain on social programs, specifically health care and education systems.

The Canada Health Act has no requirement to provide health care to temporary residents, and Ontario doesn't do it. Smith read from a list of other countries that do not provide health care to temporary residents (Japan, Australia, the UK, Switzerland, Spain, UAE). She will be using the Quebec model to overhaul Alberta's system.

Children of temporary residents in the K-12 system cost Alberta $500 million last year, and it will cost $500 million this year. These kids require special attention because they are ESL students. That attention takes time away from other students (children of taxpayers). She asked, "If you're only coming here on a one-year work permit, why are you bringing your family and expecting taxpayers to pay for that?"

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[nepal]

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DS might be highlighted in Canadian history, as the premier who handed Canada to the US as the 51st state.

If DS succeeds in separating Alberta from Canada, landlocked Alberta would bolt-onto the US border, where much of it’s petroleum flows. This why the US is actively supporting Alberta’s separating, so it can easily be assimilated as the initial part of the 51st state, the rest of the provinces following because Canada is only viable as a whole.

Alberta thinks it has problems now, well just look down across the border to look at the mess we’d be joining! A handful of rich US tycoons and gov debtors would strip Alberta of it’s petroleum income, and leave it’s residents in poverty and everyone for themselves to pay for healthcare, education, security, etc.

I agree that Alberta has real issues to be solved, such as imposed mass immigration, and national revenue distribution. But these issues are solvable staying within Canada. Immigration rates have already dropped dramatically, which could help Alberta which has been a magnet for newcomers seeking employment. Alberta wanted more workers, but not to be flooded with them. As well as foreign immigration, there is in-migration from other provinces where employment is lacking. Alberta needs to have a hiatus on newcomers, and have time to assimilate those already there (and expel the bad ones).

To the Lib Fed’s credit, both the recent gas and Fed-paid oil pipeline to the west coast gave Alberta access to higher world prices and new markets, which significantly increased Alberta and Fed’s revenue…much to the dismay of the bankrupt US, who allegedly participated in barricading the construction.

Alberta has been known as the land of plenty, but now it’s overrun with bonanza seekers, who are ruining a good thing. I get DS’s frustration, and the perception that separating from Canada would give it control over immigration policy and finances, but these issues risk the US dividing and conquering the whole country.

So Alberta’s problems need to be taken seriously, and the federal government must step in immediately to partner solutions, such as already seen with curtailing immigration and tying immigrants to stay in other provinces. Revenue sharing must also be reviewed, however Alberta should consider a provincial sales tax, which would help fund its fiscal shortfalls and help deter mass-inmigration. Alberta needs to be allowed to be picky about who it can take in, and then provide proper services for those it does take in.

There are similarities between Alberta’s immigration problems, and the mass-immigration problems that caused BREXIT in the UK. But BREXIT has gone badly for the UK. What the UK needed, was to stay in the EU, but to be able to stop the flow of new immigrants, or at least be allowed to drastically reduce the flow to allow for cultural and economic assimilation. This isn’t being racist, but is being pragmatic.

The US loves instability in resource rich countries, thus time for Canada to regroup and hunker down and think as one strong whole country.

Thankfully we now have a highly capable federal leader, so now Alberta needs a highly capable provincial leader, to correctly identify problems, then act upon formulas to solve the problems, to keep Canada whole.