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Props to the BlackAdder reference

Did Putin really think Ukraine would just roll over?
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normaM wrote: Sep 12th, 2022, 12:24 pm Props to the BlackAdder reference

Did Putin really think Ukraine would just roll over?
sure looks like it.
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If anything it shows just how little resources Russia put into the SMO. Nice fake Sun Tzu reference, never heard of that one, but I think Citino's work on the US army's doctrinal inheritance of German technique is more relevant in this instance. The irony is rewinding 60 years to von Manstein's generalship in this very same part of the world, against the very same people.

But that's probably already covered in a twitter link somewhere right?

6 months of war but suddenly in a week Ukraine has "won"? Amazing.

Lets circle back a week from now and see where its at.
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Sure, let's circle back in a week...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1569298704238100482

Rough translation:

- Do you need it?
- No
- And you?
- *no answer*
- :cuss: this crap...

Moving on... *Warning - Not a happy story*



The bigger picture...

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If you're interested in this topic, this is the must see video of the day.

Russian Media Monitor - - -> https://twitter.com/i/status/1569810748989390850
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Drip_Torch wrote: Sep 13th, 2022, 3:31 pm If you're interested in this topic, this is the must see video of the day.

Russian Media Monitor - - -> https://twitter.com/i/status/1569810748989390850
Wow so there's actually dissent and difference of opinion on Russian media, I don't see that much in western media.
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Drip_Torch wrote: Sep 13th, 2022, 3:31 pm If you're interested in this topic, this is the must see video of the day.

Russian Media Monitor - - -> https://twitter.com/i/status/1569810748989390850
Pretty strong/traitorous words coming out of Russia.
Their people know. Something has to give.
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Russia invaded with a 1:3 force ratio against.
They seized 20% of the country
They drained troops from that area to reinforce the Donbas and Crimean land bridge.
You know, the objectives of their operation.
Most western accounts say the area was thinly held and the Russians withdrew in good order.
Ukraine, bankrupt, must now help all the civilians in this devastated area for the upcoming winter, and defend it.
Theyve used up their operational reserve.
Hows the southern counteroffensive going btw?

Would the Russians rather have held that area? Sure, why not. Is this some epochal defeat? Nah.

As i mentioned above, look at mansteins counter offensive in 43 in, wait for it... Kharkov... how did it work out for Jerry? This 2022 version was pure americana, they love the ww2 wehrmacht btw, but i dont think they understand the russian way of war at all.
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The whole nature of war has changed since the Afghanistan era. Global communications and interdependencies, drones and gps guided weapons down to howitzer shells use satellite coordinates, surveillance, and intelligence. There is no hiding and we get a play-by-play of all the action and see everything going on. The war was a stupid idea and the Russians underestimated Ukraine and the effectiveness of new technologies. The picture could have been quite different without foreign aid. Russia may even loose Crimea as high level occupiers are selling and leaving.
The US will continue to send arms until it is over.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 13th, 2022, 4:56 pm Sucks to be Putin.
Too bad they don't use his coordinates.
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I fully expect Vlady to use a nuclear weapon in the Ukraine. On a day when the wind is from the east.
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Jlabute wrote: Sep 13th, 2022, 4:56 pm The US will continue to send arms...

It's a dream come true for arms manufacturers. I bet the 2022 Future Force Capabilities Conference and Exhibition will be exciting this year.
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[icon_lol2.gif] drumming up business for arms dealers. Where does he get the time to promote arms sales
for American warmongers, if he's in a war?
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^^^
Would you rather it was Putin speaking?
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^^^^ Sounds like it???
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bb49 wrote: Sep 13th, 2022, 10:06 pm ^^^
Would you rather it was Putin speaking?
Maybe he wants him so he can talk about how (in)effective Russian-made weapons are against NATO's weaponry?

The Russian main Battle tank T-72/80 is basically a complete failure in the Ukrainian war.
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